Sorry about the 1F44D fudd and confusion! I don’t really know the limitations of NetSurf 8~(

I do most of my internetting on the Mac – even downloading things for the Pi, and uploading things from it, now that with help from this wonderful community the Pi can talk to our NAS, and the Mac can talk directly to the Pi.

RISC OS FR launches its Dailymotion channel

Oh look, a Frenchie uses DailyMotion instead of YouTube. ;-)
Hmm, is there a DailyMotion downloader app?

I don’t really know the limitations of NetSurf 8~(

It’s not NetSurf. Well, it is, but it isn’t.

The colourful characters that you see in your Mac’s browser are called “emoji”, and they are basically multicolour font glyphs. I’m rather partial to the facepalm one myself. ;-)

Now, the thing is that:

• RISC OS’ FontManager isn’t capable of handling coloured stuff like that
• NetSurf has no idea what emoji are (I tried converting a monochrome emoji font for XP called Symbola but that didn’t have any effect)
• It probably shouldn’t be up to each application to handle what to do with character codes out of the usual range; what rufl does is what FontManager ought to do…

The colourful characters that you see in your Mac’s browser are called “emoji”, and they are basically multicolour font glyphs.

You don’t say! :D

RISC OS’ FontManager isn’t capable of handling coloured stuff

Now that’s what I should have realized myself but didn’t think about.

It probably shouldn’t be up to each application to handle what to do with character codes out of the usual range; what rufl does is what FontManager ought to do…

It’s OK, I mentioned colour names and such and actually used the name Nemo, and he still didn’t appear.
You’re safe to carry on. :)

Hmm, is there a DailyMotion downloader app?

I will propose videos for download on the RISC OS FR website… later :)

You’re safe to carry on.

ROFL

and actually used the name Nemo, and he still didn’t appear.

Did you try saying his name three times?

You’re safe to carry on. :)

I think we all already know that he’s not exactly impressed with FontManager’s “cool in the eighties, sucks in the twenties¹” behaviour.

¹ I added a year because, what’s this decade called? “tens” just doesn’t sound right. That said, “twenties” implies flappers, art deco, cloche hats, saddle shoes, and women with weird things in their hair… not next ····ing year!

Did you try saying his name three times?

Consecutively, or in total across the past few days? For the latter I’m pretty sure I’ve exceeded.

That said, “twenties” implies flappers, art deco, cloche hats, saddle shoes, and women with weird things in their hair… not next ····ing year!

Did you look that stuff up? Most of those fashion bits went right over my head. Then again any fashion item in the last 50 years has always gone right over my head.

End.

I mentioned colour names and such and actually used the name Nemo, and he still didn’t appear.

Yeah, it’s been six months since I last visited. I can be contacted elsewhere you know.

On Jan 1 (Happy New Year) DavidS wrote

the unicode character number 1F44D as inserted by Clive is an emoji Thumbs Up symbol. Though it comes through as F44D in RISC OS

I’m trying really hard not to swear.

Unicode is NOT 16bit. UNICODE IS NOT 16 BIT.

UNICODE IS NOT SIXTEEN BIT

Unicode is 21bit, and truncating codepoints to 16bit is wrong, bad, awful, embarrassing. Need I go on? It’s one thing to not be able to display a character (groans), it’s quite another to not even be able to get the number right.

Cripes.

Rick said

The colourful characters that you see in your Mac’s browser are called “emoji”

<Tenses pedantry muscles>

and they are basically multicolour font glyphs

<Rolls sleeves up> Right. ‘emoji’ in the Unicode sense covers two different but related concepts.

• Symbols
• Cartoonified versions of existing symbols

You can blame Japanese mobile phones mainly. Unicode defines a large number of single-codepoint emoji symbols, and also a lot of multi-codepoint composite emoji symbols – grapheme clusters. However, it is perfectly acceptable to display these in a single colour. For example, here are some single-codepoint emoji (right) and emoji code sequences (left) in RISC OS:

However, a browser may choose to use a more colourful representation. That might be done with a font, but it’s often done simply with loads of PNGs (as Twitter does, for example).

There are a couple of technologies for producing coloured fonts, but they’re all a bit flawed honestly. I’d cut FontManager some slack here… that is, if it could actually display any emoji at all. <facepalm emoji>.

The cartoonified versions of existing glyphs are particularly problematic (again, blame the Japanese). For example, the emojified version of the pack-of-cards hearts suit is blue. Yeah. I know. <vomit emoji>