Software Testing at ROUGOL, Mon 17th May 2021

The next meeting of the RISC OS User Group Of London (online) is:

Software Testing, presented by Gerph

Monday 17th May 2021, 7.45pm

Online via Zoom, meeting open from 7.30pm

http://www.rougol.jellybaby.net/meetings/

Following on from last year’s very well received talk about Building RISC OS Online, Gerph will be making a welcome return to talk about how the build service can be used to help with software testing.

Gerph cares that systems are well designed and tested, and that developers get useful feedback on failures. However this is often difficult on “classic” RISC OS, due to lack of suitable tools and system instability. Helping with this is one of the goals of RISC OS Pyromaniac.

Gerph will be talking about the principles of testing levels (unit – system and customer testing), and why we do it, and then starting out with theoretical examples for an application, before moving on to a concrete discussion of a tiny section of Edit. He will cover a really basic example, and follow this with a more involved example of how to make tests for a module.

Gerph is also looking for feedback and has put up an online survey:

This meeting will be held online via Zoom. Please contact us to receive a link to the meeting on the day. If you have last month’s link, it’s the same one!

http://www.rougol.jellybaby.net/contacts/

Now I’m puzzled. Indoor seating in pubs opens from May 17th so why not a normal meeting? We’re hoping to meet indoors om May 19th for BARUG.

Because you just meet in a pub and sit round a table, we have to book a room and organise speakers. I was not going to do that on the chance that things would reopen that day! Similarly, I’m expecting June’s meeting to be online too.

Also, isn’t the limit still six people in a group?

I hope the ROUGOL meetings continue to be online.
Firstly a meeting in London is too difficult for many people to get to, but just as importantly the presentation via screen sharing beats being in a dark room and peering at a projector image. a third point is that the after meeting chat can go on until everybody falls asleep! Most pubs throw you out before then.

so why not a normal meeting?

What, with other actual non-feline biological entities in close proximity? Ewwwww!

after meeting chat can go on until everybody falls asleep! Most pubs throw you out before then

I’m not sure about ROUGOL’s new venue, but our previous long standing venue was open until 3am, although I think the latest a physical meeting went on was about 1.30am!

Rick, join us for the online meeting, you’ll fit in perfectly :-)

Also, isn’t the limit still six people in a group?

Yes (which isn’t a problem for BARUG) but I though gatherings might have different rules.

BARUG, of course, doesn’t actually exist, and hasn’t existed for around 15 years – so quite right, it isn’t a problem for BARUG! :p

I hope the ROUGOL meetings continue to be online.

Easier for any interested person to participate, yes. Also has a lasting record these days.

Firstly a meeting in London is too difficult for many people to get to

Unless you happen to live (or be temporarily resident) on an easy transport route to the venue.
The occasion I attended I happened to be staying a few stops up the tube line so getting there, and back was pretty easy – although the return journey was a slightly soggy experience for the bit from venue to tube.

a third point is that the after meeting chat can go on until everybody falls asleep! Most pubs throw you out before then.

Hmmm, like some sort of bloodhound I have always managed to find pubs that didn’t – close that is. I rather lost track of the pubs that did afternoon drinks even though that wasn’t a legal item at the time and I have a long list of pubs where going home at 3am was considered early.

Why not make the ROUGOL meetings both online and `real`, that is, in the pub? All who can get there and wish to be there will attend in person and others interested can participate online.

Aside from a small SNAFU at the beginning, the talk went well. Thank you to ROUGOL for letting me present at short notice… and I feel foolish for volunteering to do a presentation with such little preparation :-)

For anyone who missed the talk and would like to know more, the slides and my speaker notes can be found at:

https://presentation.riscos.online/testing/

The speaker notes cover what I planned to say, not what was said – I skipped over a couple of paragraphs here and there and reworded a page when I realised that I didn’t know what I was saying and therefore nobody else would either. Apologies for that!

Hey everyone, sorry for reviving this thread, but I was on the hunt for some information on software testing and stumbled upon this post. I recently came across the concept of user acceptance testing and was curious to learn more about it.

I recently came across the concept of user acceptance testing and was curious to learn more about it.

Here is a link to a blog post that lists all the different types of software testing and in “design cronological order”, together with examples (including acceptance tests):

https://paolozaino.wordpress.com/2021/06/20/software-development-introduction-to-code-testing/

If you’re refering to specifics on RISC OS, this thread was the announcement to a fantastic speech that Gerph gave us, but the speech was not specifically organised aroudn the discrete forms of modern software testing, it was more an introduction on how to apply certain techniques to the specific of testing software on RISC OS and testing RISC OS itself.

Hope this helps

Oh, 2021! I was just thinking “damn it, I’m actually going to be in London in May” (2023, for people in the future…)

Simon, careful what you reveal in public about your location, bad things might happen like getting dragged in to do a talk at a local user group… :-)

It has been almost 10 years since your last one! https://rougol.jellybaby.net/meetings/2013/aug.html

I thought with Zoom, everyone is now local for Rougol talks…

It has been almost 10 years since your last one! https://rougol.jellybaby.net/meetings/2013/aug.html

Simon Willcocks has been developing ROLF on and off for about 10 years

I should probably think about finishing that project…