Raspberry Pi 3

Earlier this evening The Register carried a story about a forthcoming Raspberry Pi 3, with WiFi and Bluetooth but otherwise identical to the Raspberry Pi 2. However it looks as if the story has been pulled because there is no mention of it there currently, though lilliputing still has the story.

Damn, I was just about to post that and say RISC OS will need to up its game with WiFi and Bluetooth on-board… There are currently no hard details, but some speculation that it might be a revised SoC. Ethernet not hanging off USB would be nice.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/26/raspberry_pi_3/

The story hasn’t been pulled. Depending on your view (desktop/mobile) sometimes The Register puts featured stories in inset boxes so they don’t flow with the rest of the article headings.

A bit more detail -

http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/02/27/raspberry-pi-3-model-b-board-adds-wifi-and-bluetooth-connectivity/

This briefly mentions 64bit as does this MagPi front page

Even higher vectors then!

Maybe we have to wait till monday when it will be exactly 4 years agoo for the first Rasberry Pi to appear.

Cortex A53

Cortex A53

That article seems to be repeating the content of the CNX article which contains the phrases:
“So the only major changes on Raspberry Pi 3 appears to be built-in WiFi and Bluetooth, and 64-bit ARM cores (likely Cortex A53).”
and
“The processor looks the same as the BCM2836 quad core Cortex A7 SoC found on model 2 B, but one redditer claims it could be a 64-bit processor due to some MagPi ad. [Update: that’s the MagPi ad which confirms Raspberry Pi 3 will feature a 64-bit ARM processor @ 1.2 GHz.”

Any idea of pricing yet? Surely they can’t pull off 64 bit multicore at 1.2GHz with WiFi and Bluetooth for the same $35ish as always?

http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cortex-a/cortex-a53-processor.php

“The ARM ARMv8-A Cortex-A53 processor offers a balance between performance and power-efficiency and is capable of seamlessly supporting 32-bit and 64-bit code.”

“As well as running 64-bit applications, the Cortex-A53 seamlessly and efficiently runs legacy ARM 32-bit applications.” That’ll be us then.

I have tried to pull together all currently available info in my latest blog article: http://riscosblog.huber-net.de/2016/02/raspberry-pi-3-im-anmarsch/

German only as always :-)

This pic gives away most infos: http://i.imgur.com/exuZy58.jpg

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Friscosblog.huber-net.de%2F2016%2F02%2Fraspberry-pi-3-im-anmarsch%2F&edit-text=&act=url

;-)

I presume ROOL was aware and have been getting a version of RISC OS ready, like before.

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Raspberry-Pi-3-mit-WLAN-und-Bluetooth-und-64-Bit-3119537.html?wt_mc=rss.ho.beitrag.rdf

Diverse Quellen munkeln, dass es am kommenden Montag, dem 29. Februar, mehr zu erfahren gibt.
Diverse sources whisper that there is to know more on Monday , 29 February.

Maybe we have to wait till monday when it will be exactly 4 years agoo for the first Rasberry Pi to appear.

Diverse sources whisper that there is to know more on Monday , 29 February.

I am sorry, I am not a source, I just like to speculate. But who knows.

64bit? That’s pretty awesome. For the “minority” ARM OS’s (i.e. anything which isn’t Linux) this certainly simplifies the task for anyone who’s looking for a cheap 64bit dev board to experiment with (if your OS runs on the Pi 1/2, you’ve got all the drivers ready for the Pi 3).

Now if only they could solve the problem of people who are looking for enough free time to be able to experiment :-P

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Friscosblog.huber-net.de%2F2016%2F02%2Fraspberry-pi-3-im-anmarsch%2F&edit-text=&act=url

Now that is a spectacularly bad translation. Please believe me that the German original is of much higher quality than the translation suggests…

Now that is a spectacularly bad translation.

der nächste Streich der Raspberry Pi Foundation ist im Anmarsch

“the next stroke of Raspberry Pi Foundation is baptized on the march”

brilliant or what!!

an updated model from the Raspberry Pi Foundation is coming

Maybe I should try a less-colourful German so that a translation machine can actually rework it into understandable English :-)

A German foreign minister once said in German at an EU meeting: “Vor der Hacke ist es dunkel.” The simultaneous interpreters had to discuss first what this might mean before translating it for the others.

A great example the other way round is a word-by-word translation of the manual of a mechanical aquarium: “Lebensunterhalt aus direkter Sonne leuchtet.” The english original phrase was “Keep out of direct sunlight.”

Now that is a spectacularly bad translation.

Of course, it is Google Translate. It exists to make multilingual people cringe. You should see the word salad that comes out of trying to translate from Japanese. I think “the gist of the article” is about what you can expect.

Google Translate is a useful tool none the less, but I do wonder about the sanity of self-driving cars when all their computing resources haven’t yet managed to suss language.

Please believe me that the German original is of much higher quality than the translation suggests…

Of course, you can write German. That was never in doubt.

der nächste Streich der Raspberry Pi Foundation ist im Anmarsch
“the next stroke of Raspberry Pi Foundation is baptized on the march”

German word order isn’t unlike English, so we can try a direct word for word here. the/der next/nächste stroke/Streich (of)the/der (Raspberry Pi Foundation) is/ist in/im the_march/Anmarsch. I think this is a rather overly literal translation where “on the march” is in the sense of “approaching”, as in “the next thing is nearly here”.
So with that in mind, where the hell did “baptized” come from? Translating that word alone offers getauft/taufen/einweihen/(be)nennen/angeben/heißen none of which appear in the quoted sentence. Hmmm?

German word order isn’t unlike English

I thought German-speakers at the back of every sentence the verb put? I’m not a German-speaker (but the choir /is/ rehearsing Ein Deutsches Requiem, in Brahms’ native tongue – and outstandingly wonderful it is too!). Sorry for the off-topic excursion.

the/der next/nächste stroke/Streich (of)the/der (Raspberry Pi Foundation) is/ist in/im the_march/Anmarsch.

Here you see that the root of both languages is the same: indo european/germanic (which isn’t German!) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_languages
But it’s pretty rare, such an example as this. Normally the differences are much more obvious.

Regards from the man in the middle: groeten uit Nederland:-)

Here you see that the root of both languages is the same:

For English saying the root is a bit inaccurate, leaving aside the latin components from the visitors in early A.D. and the French and Scandinavian bits we do have a habit of borrowing words and sentence constructs from other cultures.

I know, Steve, but in the example above nearly all the words (the..Anmarsch) are from the same origin. Your words inaccurate, components, visitors, AD, habit, sentence, constructs and cultures have different origins. That’s why the example is pretty rare, a sequence of words from the same root.

That’s why the example is pretty rare, a sequence of words from the same root.

Mmm. <shrugs> Just shows that Steffen is Made Of Awesome.

To get this thread back on topic, Farnell have an RPi3 datasheet:

http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/2020826.pdf

New Broadcom BCM2837 SOC looks certain. 64bit ARMv7? quad-core.

Also a better top view photo than the FCC site :-)

Ralph

Edit: Corrected the processor type to ARMv7 (this should be ARMv8 for 64-bit?! although I read somewhere today that you can apparently mix ARMv7 and ARMv8 cores on the same die?).

New Broadcom SOC looks certain. 64bit ARM A7 ? Shurely shome mistake ?

ARMv7 as in ARMv6 or ARMv7 – which would be the usual compatability