Otter Browser and QupZilla - Javascript JIT enabled

I know it’s a different subject, but stil linked to Qt. Did you try to port this?
https://www.linux-apps.com/content/show.php/QSimpleSheet?content=75343

Nota: it’s interesting to see that the WebKit component is completely independent from the application.
I wonder if it would be possible to use it from a classic RISC OS frontend/application.

I think this ought to be called “The Oregano Syndrome”, that’s the last time I recall a browser deciding it could do font rendering better than FontManager…and failing. ;-)

I think the point is that Oregano as well as Otter/QupZilla render TrueType fonts a lot better than FontManager, which somehow insists on exclusively understand that strange Acorn font format…so in some ways, the font rendering is indeed better!

Otter and QupZilla use the Freetype 2 font renderer, and I don’t really understand why the font rendering looks so strange on RISC OS.

I know it’s a different subject, but stil linked to Qt. Did you try to port this?
https://www.linux-apps.com/content/show.php/QSimpleSheet?content=75343

Seems to use Qt4, RISC OS port is Qt5. And it was last updated in 2008. Its SourceForge presence also seems dead. Feature wise, I did not see anything special – Pipedream and Fireworkz should be able to do all of that and more.

The Qt5 Webkit libraries have now been built with inline SVG support. Available from here.
The acid3 test now scores 100. There’s some example animations here.

Nice work, Chris (and Lee?)! That’s now officially better than both Firefox and Chrome which only scored 97 when I ran them on W10 just now ;)

should be able to do all of that and more.

And a lot less too (undo/redo) :)

The Qt5 Webkit libraries have now been built with inline SVG support.

Are these recommended for general use, i.e. in place of the existing ones?

Are these recommended for general use, i.e. in place of the existing ones?

Other than it uses more memory it should be OK. It’s not had much testing. A few websites use inline SVG so you may notice extra images appear.

I know it’s a different subject, but stil linked to Qt. Did you try to port this?
https://www.linux-apps.com/content/show.php/QSimpleSheet?content=75343

In theory it may be possible to port Calligra Sheets.

That’s now officially better than both Firefox and Chrome which only scored 97 when I ran them on W10 just now ;)

The QTWebkit libraries were originally built with a minimal set of options. A few more have been turned on. www.html5test.com gets a couple more points.

In theory it may be possible to port Calligra Sheets.

Seems to have a good set of tools there.

all we need now is to be able to watch embedded video in the browser !!what are the chances of that?? i scored 157 on a titanium

For anyone experiencing slow downloading of web pages or pages failing to completely download there is an update available here. Just drop the !Boot folder over your existing one and reboot. Web browsing with Otter Browser and Qupzilla should now be much faster.

For the record, this is the wrong approach. FontManager is now an impediment and must be replaced.

For the record, this is the wrong approach. FontManager is now an impediment and must be replaced.

While you might be right to the nth degree you do have to admit that it isn’t a simple thing to do and there’s a shortage of people who know how.

[post deleted as it was in the wrong thread – I am a muppet]

Hi.

The latest Otter doesn’t work here. Just crashing (the previous one is OK).
Qupzilla doesn’t work either with the SVG WebKit.

Will we have some updates (with complete resources)?
I really like Qupzilla, even if it’s a bit slow. Falkon?

I haven’t tried Qupzilla in a long time. When I try it today, it fails to start up with this in the error box:

Unable to allocate memory for shared library
Unable to allocate memory for shared library
SCSI::HardDisc4.$.Apps.!Qupzilla: can't load library 'libicudata.so.52'

libicudata.so.52 is in $.SharedLibs.lib.abi-2.0.vfp (along with loads more libs and symlinks)

So the error messages don’t give me much clue as to how to fix the problem. This is an RPi 3B+. The executable is dated 2016 April, but that appears to be the current one on Chris Gransden’s site.

Help gratefully accepted!

Also: roughly how long would I expect Otter to take to wake up for the first time on this machine? I appear to have a total of 12 fonts installed.

Are there any installation instructions for Qupzilla? If there are, they have somehow managed to evade my searches.

I’m guessing that, if other people have run Qupzilla successfully, there’s something wrong or deficient in the way I’ve installed it – which is to copy the app to the Apps folder, and to update the resources.

I find it easiest to use PackMan as I sometimes fell foul of missing libraries, but haven’t when installed that way.

Is that what you’re doing? Or are you just installing it from messages earlier in this thread (or direct from the website)?

I find it easiest to use PackMan

Snap I normally find it easier I have Qupzilla on the ARMX6 and it works and it was installed via Packman.

So I started up my Pi3B running 5.26 18/10/18 and installed Qupzilla and LibQupZilla via Packman 0.9.5 and rebooted and tried Qupzilla and it complained it couldn’t see one of the !SharedLib libraries.

After uninstalling and reinstalling SharedLibs via Packman I still had the issue and then I thought I wonder if it is the installation of !Iris in the same directory as Qupzilla that is causing the issue so I put it in a directory on it’s own and rebooted and then tried Qupzilla and it works.

So I would I would try having Qupzilla in it’s own directory and not seeing !Otter or any other browser or perhaps you have a another application that uses SharedLibs and has altered its files?

That’s a very good point, Doug. Iris and OWB (and now PineBrowse) have their own set/subset of SharedLibs inside their applications. At one point, I kept all the browsers I had in one directory, and had to keep clicking on various incarnations of SharedLibs to run each one.

Iris and OWB (and now PineBrowse) have their own set/subset of SharedLibs inside their applications

Hi Andy, so its a case of not so common !SharedLibs now and sort of breaks it’s use , anyone would think RISC OS is starting to turn its self into dare I say it Windows.

This is (sort of) my fault. We found that the different SharedLibs from different developers (often needing different SharedULib etc) often didn’t play well with each other. This is something that would/will be tackled before general release. Rather than insisting that users install bleeding-edge betas into the master !System/SharedLibs, each program comes with the files it needs inside itself (for now) for beta purposes.

If anyone has any better thoughts/suggestions (short of “don’t make it available”) then I’d welcome them – it is only intended as a temporary measure until things have matured to a point of co-existance, and (perhaps most importantly) can be tested co-existing more thoroughly.

Hi Andrew,

Nothing to say sorry for as I appreciate the difficulty of trying to make things really simple and self contained perhaps for new users and as it is Beta status then I fully accept the need to be flexible this end.

Thanks for all the great work you and the team are doing.

Doug