What are you doing with RISC OS?

When tidying up the cookies on the iPad… there’s no tick-box list, you need to swipe-and-tap on every single one

And there is no search option… and the list is sorted by size rather than alphabetically. It makes it really difficult when you just want a certain site to forget who you are!

I’m often finding myself frustrated with “modern” systems, as often someone will make a braindead decision, make it the default, and make it difficult or impossible to disable. Then some manager at a competing OS company will think “gee, that’s a good idea” and implement it there too. It’s currently in vogue for computers to synch with “the cloud” and present the same apps, settings etc across all of your computers. Of course, this isn’t well thought out: If I wanted both of my computers to behave absolutely identically then why would I have two of them in the first place?

Then you end up with “all or nothing”-type arrangements. I want to synch my browser’s saved passwords across my desktop and phone, but I don’t want bookmarks; I use different sites at home vs when I’m out, so I don’t want identical bookmarks on both devices. But now I don’t get password synching. Argh!

Moving on…

If you are only buying a Pi and you want to cut the cost then also buy the nutPi sdcard this comes with the latest DDE 26

I believe that DDE 27 isn’t too far off. An outright purchase of DDE 26 includes six months’ worth of free updates, but historically the NutPi versions have required additional payment (going from 24 to 25 cost £12.50, and going to 26 required buying a whole new NutPi from scratch). Depending on your needs, you may be better off with buying the DDE outright.

An outright purchase of DDE 26 includes six months’ worth of free updates, but historically the NutPi versions have required additional payment (going from 24 to 25 cost £12.50, and going to 26 required buying a whole new NutPi from scratch).

Given the relative cost of the full DDE with its install-many vs NutPi restricted-to-Pi I’d say just buy a new edition NutPi if you only use a Pi.

Historically the updates to the DDE haven’t been of a regularity such that an early adopter actually qualifies. Might be better from a user perspective if the DDE purchase included a 6 months or next revision @ half price. i.e. update outside 6 months at 1/2

Actually, I have bought the DDE. It says to uninstall C/C++ before installing both compilers on the upgrade. Not that I haven’t any intention of using C/C++ anyway, but out of curiosity, how do I uninstall anyway.

How can I find the version of the ARM on my Pi in RISCOS?

Also, the two hardback book offers with the DDE are they in machine readable form with the DDE? If they are I’m happy in not contributing towards chopping trees down :)

Is there a good programmers editor with the DDE? I will look but I was just wondering so that I could add more questions to this post hoping for more replies :)

Andrew

It’s referring to the old Acorn C/C++ product, which was replaced with the DDE years ago. You probably don’t have it :)

Your ARM processor type will be listed on the boot screen; my Pi 1 says “RISC OS 448MB, ARM11ZFJS Processor” or something to that effect. You can figure out the type from that information (post it here if you’re unsure).

There are PDFs of the books, although I can’t promise that they’re the latest versions as the physical books are fairly new.

SrcEdit is included but it’s fairly simple. I think most people use StrongED or Zap.

In the CPU applet in configure it says I have ARM 7.

Is there any resource that gives guidelines for the best instructions to use, or rather the best methods to keep in mind to maintain future compatibility? IOW a rule of thumb if you pardon the pun.

I think that by sticking to the simplest instructions that will suffice, yes? Something alonog those lines.

Also the kind of instructions that are not likely to be depreciated, the core instructions. Is there a list? It is a good way of learning.

Not that I am already learning now :)

Andrew

Probably not. I think the next major incarnations of ARM will be to AArch64, with the 32 bit retained as “legacy”. I don’t expect AArch32 will change much from how it is now.

(dupe)

Sorry for the dupes. I was clicking on the button to save the post and the little spinny thing would go around for a while with no indication of data transfer. So I’d abort and try again. Only to find out it was apparently a one-way road.
Oh, the joys of WiFi on the other side of a metre-plus thick stone wall. :-)

Small reel of CAT5e UTP cable and a switch perhaps?

I thought you were trying to emulate the IT instruction.

Yes I always find CAT5e more reliable.

Andrew

Probably cost too much to ship a 48 port managed switch with routing capability.

Thanks, but there are two excuses:

Firstly, one doesn’t put network cable through stone walls. There’s a small notch in the upper corner of the door and I’m running a 20 metre power extension cable through it as the older house wiring doesn’t cope well with stuff like kettles and electric ovens. The newer wiring (that I did ;) ) does.

Secondly – https://www.heyrick.co.uk/blog/index.php?diary=20120905 The power is overhead three phase with individual bare conductors; the telephone is overhead strung, and about half of its length runs parallel to a medium tension (~11kV I think) power line.
I’m no forensic, but I would guess – given that the Livebox took the brunt of the impact – that it was the phone line that was hit. The electric line gets hit several times a year (like every other thunderstorm), which is why we’re a bit paranoid about cutting off the power when a storm comes near.
Everything that was directly connected to the Livebox was toast, with the specific exception of an old fashioned bell and rotary dial type telephone. I have absolutely no doubt that if my computer(s) were connected via cat5, they and any equipment in between would have been destroyed.

I should add, I tried CPL as an experiment, but the Livebox and the bedroom are on different phases… and I don’t fancy shifting the bedroom phases as one (I don’t remember which) runs about 20V lower. As it is the 230V drops to 190V when I turn the kettle on. ;-)
Oh, the joys of rural electrics.

I thought it was bad that Zebra was on the menu for Christmas. No. It’s worse. It’s so much worse.

https://www.heyrick.co.uk/blog/index.php?diary=20161224

Thanks but no thanks, I’ll be having roast veg and a Fray Bentos “Just Chicken” pie.

I’ll be having roast veg and a Fray Bentos “Just Chicken” pie.

Do you use an angle-grinder to get those tins open?

Do you use an angle-grinder to get those tins open?

Might as well. Our “new” tin opener is useless, keeps slipping off the edge. Maybe British cans are designed differently to European ones? Well, I don’t know why not a one of them has a ring pull, to be honest…

Merry Christmas all, by the way. :-)

Merry Christmas all, by the way. :-)

Yes, merry Christmas to you, Mom, and to all our other readers!

I have an old-fashioned jab-it-in and work-it-round against a grooved anvil-style opener for those. They are dreadful!

Aldershot for response

Ris OS really need to compete very hard with mac and windows. Looking for opportunity in mobile OS aswell.

Ris OS really need to compete very hard with mac and windows.

I think that depends upon what you’re wanting to do. Some things are a lost cause, some things it can excel at.

I don’t know about you, but I find “operating system” to be less and less relevant. The things I’m looking for are application support – a decent video player, a good encoder and muxer, IRC client, browser, SSL/IMAP email client, etc. My PC running XP does a lot of this. So does my Android phone. Some applications keep me with XP (plus a depressing level of bugs and general weirdness in Linux) otherwise I probably would have gone to Linux already. As long as it does what I want, I really don’t care what is running underneath.
In this respect, RISC OS is different. It is very much it’s own thing, and it is both a blast from the past and a refreshing change from what is going to become one day a random selection from an identikit operating system book… in other words, soon Windows and Linux and Mac and maybe even mobile, they’ll look and feel the same and is grey haired people will remember that once upon a time it wasn’t like that…

I have also noticed that now is the time of application development. If RISC OS can do some think like Android, supporting open source, It can have a lot of contributors and eventually become a emerging in Mobile and cloud market. Look some articles in Android app store

Troll??

Troll??

Or, at least, “away with the fairies!”.

A figurative expression, M’lud!

Not sure about troll, but certainly Brexit levels of delusion.

First up – I actually doubt this is the time of application development. That’s been a necessity since the home computer era in the 90s (a machine with no apps is just an expensive doorstop), however once upon a day it was possible to write apps in your bedroom – it’s how we rolled in the eighties.
Now? Look at the popular apps on android and look at the popular console games. These will be taking investment and teams of developers. Can a single person or a small group equal this? Maybe, maybe not. But the bar is so much higher now. Far better to make a good app for a niche purpose and just expect that people won’t be willing to pay…

Secondly, open source does exist on RISC OS. The OS itself is that. It may not match the so called openness of the GPL, however I believe the GPL is one of the most restrictive “open” licences around, and dangerous due to some rather dubious clauses with the attitude of “the courts will decide”.

Finally, a mobile OS needs memory protection and to guard against errant tasks. It also needs a UI aimed at poke screen behaviour. RISC OS has none of this. I believe our strength may lie in embedded devices. Mobile is an utter waste of time. That space is owned by Android and iOS. Even Microsoft failed to make much impact, and the old masters Symbian and Blackberry have been toppled. Getting into mobile is a fool’s errand.

It may not match the so called openness of the GPL, however I believe the GPL is one of the most restrictive “open” licences around, and dangerous due to some rather dubious clauses with the attitude of “the courts will decide”.

Oh, the GPL is open but sometimes open things aren’t really a nice idea.

Not sure about troll, but certainly Brexit levels of delusion.

Not quite. Are we off-topic here? Should our responses be heading over to Aldershot?