London Show, Sat 29th October 2016
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RISCOSBits (3000) 143 posts |
It’s neither. It merely physically fits in the space occupied by a PCI/PCIe slot. It doesn’t connect to the motherboard in any way. It will run on the Titanium though. It’s more of a software/non-proprietary hardware solution. |
David Feugey (2125) 2709 posts |
If price/integration/performances is correct, why not. The problems here are to get power from the same PSU as the computer, to be able to power on/off it from the computer, and the link between the two (as Titanium has two Ethernet ports, it should not be a problem here, but will RISC OS be able to define a bridge to get an Internet access from the PC?). |
RISCOSBits (3000) 143 posts |
Easy – done!
Sort of – other options are being explored! Powering on automatically is easy, powering on on request is in process, powering off is easy.
Possibly! For more information, to make some of this work, you may wish to have a look here ;-) |
Glen Walker (2585) 469 posts |
Glad I’m not the only one! So in summary: The GeminiX is a small x86 compatible computer that is installed inside a RISC OS computer and used for running Windows? Could this run Linux too? Any more spec available? The case on offer has a built in mSATA slot and turns the Pi into a small computer for about £150 if you already have a Pi? When will these be for sale? |
Steve Pampling (1551) 8172 posts |
Dislike the concept and implementation with a passion. |
RISCOSBits (3000) 143 posts |
Yep!
For now, please message me using the contact page here |
Steve Pampling (1551) 8172 posts |
The Gemini board was (is if you have one, they aren’t made anymore) a x86 card with some interface logic to allow it to run as a second processor in a RISC PC. The software, for which source is available, is 26 bit only1 and the cards were 486 and 586 processors. This gives you an idea of the age of the cards and the low clock speed as a result. Given these restrictions updating it for RO5 use is probably only of educational2 interest. 1 Most of the non-32 bit code is either 26bit entry/exit elements or the use of assembler/C mostly being used to replicate, and avoid the use of, OSLib content. |
Steve Pampling (1551) 8172 posts |
Following that description of the history, I assume David saying GeminiX and the teasers on the RISCOSBits site imply that someone thinks a card based x86 is commercially viable. |
David Feugey (2125) 2709 posts |
I mean GeminX… But I use it and an option to integrate a PC in a RISC OS box is important for my goal: using RISC OS again as my main platform. I could say also that PC are linked to RISC OS since day one. It’s an important part of the Archimedes/RiscPC history. With RBG problem solved, Titanium and Pyra could be the (my) solution. It seems to be a rich people problem, or a geek one. It’s not. I work a lot… and it’s much pleasant if I can make it the way I like. I give lots of money to make it possible :) |
Chris Hall (132) 3559 posts |
London Show 2016 Just a quick post to give some highlights. Archive 24:2 was issued at the show and had six pages of news about the show, so I won’t repeat those. I attended some of the theatre sessions, fewer than I would have liked as I had a number of things I wanted to buy, do and discuss at the show in between demonstrating my ‘GPS on RISC OS’ thingey. I had two battery powered Pi+GPS machines one using a Pi Zero and one using a Pi model A+. I turned them on just after 10 a.m. and one lasted until 4.15 p.m. and the other lasted until 6 p.m., just long enough to demonstrate it to Matthew Phillips as we walked to the railway station! CJE Micros PhotoDesk 3.12 had prevailed for about four years but an upgrade to 3.14 was now available to overcome problems on Pi 2, Pi 3, IGEPv5 and Titanium: it now copes with LTRGB modes, 64k modes on the Pi and with the zero page protection. Also progressive JPEGs were now supported. ROOL had announced that the NutPi SD card had now been updated for the Pi model 3 but he noted that the update for PhotoDesk had not made it in time but that PhotoDesk 3.14 had addressed this issue and users should contact CJE about the latest changes to PhotoDesk. The Rapido Ig and Rapido Ti: dual monitor output (where the desktop is split between two separate monitors) was still a bit fiddly so he was making no guarantees in this area. He noted that a 1920×1920 screen existed but that ‘if you had to ask what the price was then you probably couldn’t afford it!’. Rapidly bringing the talk to a conclusion, he noted that a pair of USB speakers and an optical ‘no scroll wheel’ mouse were both now available at a more reasonable price. A pressure sensitive graphics tablet was being demonstrated on the CJE stand using PhotoDesk (where pressure sensitivity was already built in). The tablet was PaintPal compatible and was around £100. Sine Nomine By registering, an inventory of Edinburgh’s buses could be obtained, as if requested by a browser, showing (in a ‘CSV’ file which RiscOSM would open and process) the position of each bus. Another new facility was to trace a route between two points in a special way, i.e. not just as a straight line between the two points but following roads, footpaths, railway lines etc. based on a stated mode of transport as a menu option. ROOL ROOL was now ten years old (since June 2016). The NutPi was a joint venture with commercial software providers to showcase cut-down versions of their software for the Pi. The model 3 (ARM v8) had introduced two issues – it was less easy to ‘lock down’ software to run on the Pi only and the lock down mostly failed to recognise the model 3 was permitted. Also ARM v8 compatability where some instructions were no longer supported. The Nut Pi had now been updated to include the model 3 and was on sale from the ROOL stand. Turning to the Bounty scheme he noted that the JPEG bounty had been successfully implemented and Paint, Draw, ChangeFSI and Pinboard as well as the OS had all benefited. EDID work was currently under testing and the Paint and USB bounties had been claimed and were being worked on. New bounties being considered included the RISC OS network stack and WiFi. He drew attention to a few projects which were not yet quite complete but were ‘coming soon’: A suggestion was made that where bids had been made for a bounty then the ‘progress’ could show not just ‘money received’ but also ‘money equired’ – Steve offered to look into this. |
mark stephens (181) 125 posts |
Chris, you were doing a great job on the stand every time I walked past. I wrote up some notes on the stands at the show and they are on Iconbar athttp://iconbar.com/articles/2016_London_Show_report/index1312.html Ident was the highlight of the show for me, as their aim is to bring new people into the platform. It was really interesting to see schools wanting BBC micros back! |
Anthony Vaughan Bartram (2454) 458 posts |
Hi Mark, Thanks, Tony Bartram |
Michael Emerton (483) 136 posts |
Hi Mark, Maybe a bit about the BBC Broadcast Stuff? Mostly as that was also new this year :@) Thanks for the bit about RiscDJ :@) |
mark stephens (181) 125 posts |
I missed the Amcog – so much to see. Sorry, I have now added a bit about it. |
Anthony Vaughan Bartram (2454) 458 posts |
Thanks Mark. |
Bryan Hogan (339) 593 posts |
Before the new year arrives, it’s time to complete the RISC OS show For those that were unlucky enough to miss this year’s show there is There are a some other write ups and pictures on the show website, Plus banners for adding to your website to start advertising next Hope to see you all there. |
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