see hidden files on Samba share

When I view a shared linux directory in a RISC OS file view window it does not show the files that start with a dot.

The Shared directory is on a Raspberry Pi running Raspbian and is sharing with Samba server. RISC OS is using LanMan to view the directory.
I have done some searching on the web but have not been able to find a solution.
Can anyone tell me if it is possible to get the equivalent of “ls -a” to appear in the LanMan window?

You need to ensure

hide dot files = no

in smb.conf

Thanks for the pointer Stuart,
I can see the dot files on W10 (having ticked the hidden fils option in explorer).
However no joy in RO.
I am on 5.27. It seems I must upgrade :-

Nov 04, 2020 by Colin Granville
Detail: CMD_LMShowHiddenFiles function added to c.LanMan. Resources.UK.CmdHelp and cmhg.LanMan_MH modified for added command. In c.SMB SMB_Delete, SMB_Rename and SMB_GetAttributes modified to also use the NM_INTERNAL flag.

Admin: Tested on ArmX6 with Samba on Armbian

am on 5.27. It seems I must upgrade :-

Nov 04, 2020 by Colin Granville
Detail: CMD_LMShowHiddenFiles function added to c.LanMan. Resources.UK.CmdHelp and cmhg.LanMan_MH modified for added command.

Colin’s update does work here, locally built, but it has not made it as a release yet.

LanMan98 can also see hidden files, there is a line to uncomment in its !Run.

LanMan98 can also see hidden files, there is a line to uncomment in its !Run.

I don’t have LanMan98 any more – not used it since moving off the Iyonix.
However, the good news is that although the files are invisible to the filer and to the Cat command they can be accessed if you know they exist.

eg to see the contents of .bash_history
*type /bash_history
sudo nano /boot/config/config.txt
sudo apt install fswebcam
fswebcam jrtestcam.jpg
ls
fswebcam jrtestcam.jpg
fswebcam -r 1280×720 image2.jpg
ip link show
ifconfig -a
…

I don’t have LanMan98 any more – not used it since moving off the Iyonix.

LanMan98 2.06 is now on free issue on the PlingStore.

Thanks David
LanMan98 now downloaded. Its getting a bit late so will install tomorrow with a fresh brain.

The lack of seeing the dot files on Linux is a non-issue.

That’s true – if you read what John said he can do ls -a, the issue is that looking from the RO end the SAMBA share isn’t being read correctly by LANManFS because the version currently built doesn’t have the fix Colin did to make it respect the status of the share done by the switch in smb.conf.

Two solutions:

1. download LANMan98 from PlingStore
2. Poke someone in ROOL to get them to push through the fix that Colin did months back so the system works out of the box and doesn’t require downloads of any extra software.

Nov 04, 2020 by Colin Granville
Detail: CMD_LMShowHiddenFiles function added to c.LanMan. Resources.UK.CmdHelp and cmhg.LanMan_MH modified for added command.

Colin’s update does work here, locally built, but it has not made it as a release yet.

And it still hasn’t. There seems to be difference of opinion on how the function should be called.

It does work quite nicely, set the variable, LanMan:LMShowHiddenFiles 0 | 1, as required the refresh the filer display.

*help lanmanfs
==> Help on keyword LanManFS
Module is: LanManFS        2.67 (19 May 2021)

Commands provided:
LanMan

Filing system commands:
LMConnect       LMDisconnect    LMLogon LMInfo  LMNameMode      LMLogoff        LMServer        LMPrinters      Free    ListFS

*help LMNameMode
==> Help on keyword LMNameMode
*LMNameMode sets the capitalisation of DOS short names on DOS shares and whether hidden files are shown.
Syntax: *LMNameMode [-PreserveCase | -Lowercase | -FirstCaps] [-IncludeHidden | -ExcludeHidden]
*LanMan:lmnamemode -I
*LanMan:lmnamemode -E

Change LMNameMode, refresh filer window, just perfect, thanks.

I’ve recently installed LanMan98 because I couldn’t get Omni to connect a drive using script commands.
I’ve found it to be a significant improvement.

Omni: Click on Iconbar icon. Wait… Click on the drive needed. Wait… click on the iconbar icon. Wait…
Each wait around 2 seconds.

LanMan98. click on Iconbar icon. No wait. click on Drive, no wait. Click on iconbar icon, no wait.

In addition, with Omni, the application is called Omni, the iconbar icon is labelled Net, and the drive identifies as LanmanFS

LanMan98 is consistent.

Oh, yes, shut dowm the remote computer while a drive is connected. Then shutdown RISC OS, and it takes around a minute to timeout the LanmanFS filer. Lanman98 shuts down cleanly immediately.

Omni is just a frontend to the various network filers it supports.

Omni: Click on Iconbar icon. Wait? Click on the drive needed. Wait? click on the iconbar icon. Wait?

Instant here. Maybe you have some old config in Choices or ’DNS ’issues.

You can mount a share without having Omni running. Then do

filer_opendir lanman::<name of mount>.

X lanman:lmconnect <name of mount> <server> <share name> <userid> <password>

Oh, yes, shut dowm the remote computer while a drive is connected.

Most RISC OS network file systems appear to freeze the machine on shutdown if the connection has disappeared.