updating Youtubedl

Thanks. I installed those and tested again, without success initially, but before I could complete the testing my ‘virgin’ card decided to corrupt itself – at any rate it now won’t boot. I’ll report further when it’s reformatted.

Second time around: I reinstalled Python-38, Python-38-pip and Python-Core plus LibSSL, LibFFi6, LibBZ2-1.0, ZLib1g, LibLZMA5, and for good measure, as they were in the ‘recommended’ box in PackMan, TaskRunner, LibSQLite3 and LibExpat1. I then obtained an uptodate Youtube URL using my Windows laptop (https://youtu.be/fVAiQX7wINw if anyone wants to try).

1. Attempting then to Install/Upgrade youtube-dl by right-clicking over the YTPlay icon produced this:

got PYTHONHOME
Python path configuration:
PYTHONHOME = ‘/python/env’
PYTHONPATH = (not set)
program name = ‘SDFS::HardDisc0.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.Bin.python38’
isolated = 0
environment = 1
user site = 1
import site = 1
sys.base_executable = ‘SDFS::HardDisc0.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.Bin.python38’
sys.base_prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.base_exec_prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.executable = ‘SDFS::HardDisc0.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.Bin.python38’
sys.prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.exec_prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.path = [
‘/python/env.python38.lib’,
‘/python/env.python38.lib.lib-dynload’,
]
Fatal Python error: init_fsencoding: failed to get the Python codec of the filesystem encoding
Python runtime state: core initialized
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named ‘encodings’

Current thread 0×00298e18 (most recent call first):

2. Attempting to update youtube-search produced this:

got PYTHONHOME
Python path configuration:
PYTHONHOME = ‘/python/env’
PYTHONPATH = (not set)
program name = ‘SDFS::HardDisc0.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.bin.python38’
isolated = 0
environment = 1
user site = 1
import site = 1
sys.base_executable = ‘SDFS::HardDisc0.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.bin.python38’
sys.base_prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.base_exec_prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.executable = ‘SDFS::HardDisc0.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.bin.python38’
sys.prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.exec_prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.path = [
‘/python/env.python38.lib’,
‘/python/env.python38.lib.lib-dynload’,
]
Fatal Python error: init_fsencoding: failed to get the Python codec of the filesystem encoding
Python runtime state: core initialized
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named ‘encodings’

Current thread 0×00298e18 (most recent call first):

3. and attempting to run the link above in YTPlay produced this:

Python path configuration:
PYTHONHOME = ‘/python/env’
PYTHONPATH = (not set)
program name = ‘SDFS::HardDisc0.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.Bin.python38’
isolated = 0
environment = 1
user site = 1
import site = 1
sys.base_executable = ‘SDFS::HardDisc0.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.Bin.python38’
sys.base_prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.base_exec_prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.executable = ‘SDFS::HardDisc0.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.Bin.python38’
sys.prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.exec_prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.path = [
‘/python/env.python38.lib’,
‘/python/env.python38.lib.lib-dynload’,
]
Fatal Python error: init_fsencoding: failed to get the Python codec of the filesystem encoding
Python runtime state: core initialized
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named ‘encodings’

Current thread 0×00298e18 (most recent call first):

EDIT: PythonUser, PythonSite and Python3 are all on the Boot ‘Look at’ list.

Does !Python3 run OK if you double-click it.

You should see similar to the below,

Python 3.8.5+ (riscos-5, Nov 18 2020, 08:45:24) 
[GCC 4.7.4] on riscos
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> 

Also type in a task window,

*show *python*

Alias$python3 : python38 %*0
Alias$python38 : WimpSlot -min 8M|MRun python38 %*0
Python3$Dir : SCSI::HardDisc4.$.Apps.Development.!Python3
Python3$Path : SCSI::HardDisc4.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.
Python3.8$ExecPrefix : SCSI::HardDisc4.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.Python38.Lib.Lib-Dynload
Python3.8$Prefix : SCSI::HardDisc4.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.Python38.Lib
PythonSite$Dir : SCSI::HardDisc4.$.!BOOT.Resources.!PythonSite
PythonSite$Path : SCSI::HardDisc4.$.!BOOT.Resources.!PythonSite.
PythonUser$Dir : SCSI::HardDisc4.$.!BOOT.Choices.Boot.PreDesk.!PythonUser
*

Does !Python3 run OK if you double-click it.

Yes.

You see see similar to the below,

Yes.

Also type in a task window,

Yes. I then tried the URL link again and got this:

Python path configuration:
PYTHONHOME = ‘/python/env’
PYTHONPATH = (not set)
program name = ‘SDFS::HardDisc0.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.Bin.python38’
isolated = 0
environment = 1
user site = 1
import site = 1
sys.base_executable = ‘SDFS::HardDisc0.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.Bin.python38’
sys.base_prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.base_exec_prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.executable = ‘SDFS::HardDisc0.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.Bin.python38’
sys.prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.exec_prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.path = [
‘/python/env.python38.lib’,
‘/python/env.python38.lib.lib-dynload’,
]
Fatal Python error: init_fsencoding: failed to get the Python codec of the filesystem encoding
Python runtime state: core initialized
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named ‘encodings’

Current thread 0×00298e18 (most recent call first):

Just to be clear, I’m running 5.28 stable release including the current HD4 directories straight off the ROOL site on a Pi1 – could hardware be an issue?

Run python and type the following,

Python 3.8.5+ (riscos-5, Nov 18 2020, 08:45:24) 
[GCC 4.7.4] on riscos
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import sys
>>> print(sys.path)
['', 'SCSI::HardDisc4.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.python38.lib', 'SCSI::HardDisc4.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.python38.lib.lib-dynload', 'SCSI::HardDisc4.$.!BOOT.Resources.!PythonSite.Python38.Site-Packages']
>>> 

YTPlay has been installed on a new OS5.28 installation an a USB pen on the Titanium.

In addition to the notes in this thread CaCertificates was required.

The example given by George above did fly without any error.

ModuleNotFoundError: No module named ‘encodings’

I don’t know what that is about, there is an encodings directory in Python38.Lib here.

The example given by George above did fly without any error.

Would that I could say the same!

Run python and type the following,

I did that, it looked identical to Chris’s version. I then attempted to load my URL to YTPlay, without attempting to update youtube-dl or youtube-search (they must be up to date, surely?). The result was the following:

Fatal Python error: init_fs_encoding: failed to get the Python codec of the filesystem encoding
Python runtime state: core initialized
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named ‘encodings’

Current thread 0×00298e18 (most recent call first):

EDIT: I’d previously installed CaCertificates as suggested above by David.

I did that, it looked identical to Chris’s version. I then attempted to load my URL to YTPlay, without attempting to update youtube-dl or youtube-search (they must be up to date, surely?).

In a previous post you mentioned setting up an sd card from scratch so youtube-dl and youtube-python-search won’t be installed.

I’d previously installed CaCertificates as suggested above by David.

That was in response to an ssl error. A little digging found the clue in file !Python3.Python38.Lib.ssl

line 577      cafile="<CaCertificates$Dir>.ca-certificates/crt"

Why are the standard RISC OS certificates in InetDbase:CertData not used by Python?
Seems stupid to have to try and maintain two 200KB certificate files.

Why are the standard RISC OS certificates in InetDbase:CertData not used by Python?
Seems stupid to have to try and maintain two 200KB certificate files.

!CaCertificates existed several years before CertData appeared in !Boot.

!CaCertificates existed several years before CertData appeared in !Boot.

True, but Python 3 is a recent port is it not?

OK, someone ASSUMED there had been no change and was wrong. It happens, people learn.

Looks like I should think about a YTPlay-PackMan version with all dependencies but is this possible?

so youtube-dl and youtube-python-search won’t be installed.

Sorry, that was misleading. I imported Youtubedl (2020.07.28) from a previous installation when creating the ‘clean’ card, as it’s not available as a standalone app, and ran *pip38 install —upgrade youtube-dl. But still no success. I’m probably making some elementary error; but what, that’s the question!

Delete the Youtubedl you copied over. Reboot and then run from a task window,

Maybe it will help if I summarise my procedure.
1. Boot machine.
2. Find and double-click on Python-38, this text appears:

Python 3.8.5+ (riscos-5, Nov 18 2020, 08:45:24)
[GCC 4.7.4] on riscos
Type “help”, “copyright”, “credits” or “license” for more information.
>>>
3. Launch, in order: FFmpeg (double-click, no iconbar icon); FFPlay; Youtubedl; YTPlay.
4. Drop URL on YTPlay. Error message: unknown operand at Line 4380. Icon disappears.
5. Relaunch YTPlay, result:

Python path configuration:
PYTHONHOME = ‘/python/env’
PYTHONPATH = (not set)
program name = ‘SDFS::HardDisc0.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.Bin.python38’
isolated = 0
environment = 1
user site = 1
import site = 1
sys.base_executable = ‘SDFS::HardDisc0.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.Bin.python38’
sys.base_prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.base_exec_prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.executable = ‘SDFS::HardDisc0.$.Apps.Development.!Python3.Bin.python38’
sys.prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.exec_prefix = ‘/python/env’
sys.path = [
‘/python/env.python38.lib’,
‘/python/env.python38.lib.lib-dynload’,
]
Fatal Python error: init_fsencoding: failed to get the Python codec of the filesystem encoding
Python runtime state: core initialized
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named ‘encodings’

Current thread 0×00298e18 (most recent call first):

In case it helps, here is a list produced by *modules. There is no encodings module listed.

*modules
No. Position Workspace Name
1 FC0217AC 00000000 UtilityModule
2 FC047184 20000014 PCI
3 FC04920C 200001F4 FileSwitch
4 FC056080 200016B4 ResourceFS
5 FC056D80 200016F4 TerritoryManager
6 FC0592C4 00000000 Messages
7 FC14C71C 200017F4 MessageTrans
8 FC14DB0C 20003634 UK
9 FC174DC0 00000000 SharedCLibrary
10 FC1DAD50 20003ED4 BufferManager
11 FC1F30C8 20003EF4 DeviceFS
12 FC1F7CF0 20004034 RTSupport
13 FC1FB0C0 200069D4 USBDriver
14 FC207720 2000B794 DWCDriver
15 FC2886E4 20017894 InternationalKeyboard
16 FC14F7C4 2001E1F4 WindowManager
17 FC1700E4 201FFCD4 TaskManager
18 FC174158 00000000 Desktop
19 FC1A9B78 00000000 BASIC
20 FC1BAF8C 00000000 BASIC64
21 FC1CA568 00000000 BASICVFP
22 FC1DA658 2001B714 BlendTable
23 FC1DBFB8 200495F4 ColourTrans
24 FC1E0E40 2001B414 Debugger
25 FC1F55D4 2001A154 BCMSupport
26 FC1F7278 20019E74 Portable
27 FC225670 20023874 VCHIQ
28 FC22CACC 20019474 BCMSound
29 FC22D458 20044D74 ScreenModes
30 FC234998 20047774 BCMVideo
31 FC238078 201DB534 DisplayManager
32 FC23A204 2004ACB4 DMAManager
33 FC23D1C4 2001BFB4 DragASprite
34 FC23E980 00000000 DragAnObject
35 FC23EEAC 2004B294 Draw
36 FC2421E4 201DF734 FileCore%RAM
FC2421E4 200A7234 FileCore%SDFS
FC2421E4 20062914 FileCore%SCSI
FC2421E4 00000000 FileCore%Base
37 FC25628C 20202F74 Filer
38 FC25F4B4 2004B434 FilerSWIs
39 FC25F7B0 2004B534 FSLock
40 FC260904 2004B854 FontManager
41 FC271890 2004C6F4 FPEmulator
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43 FC27FDB4 2004C9D4 Free
44 FC2815A8 2004D274 Hourglass
45 FC282004 2001DA54 IIC
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51 FC2A7360 2004D794 Pinboard
52 FC2AD114 2001DB94 PipeFS
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55 FC2AFB58 00000000 ROMFonts
56 FC303B88 2004E474 RTC
57 FC304EE8 20048B54 ScreenBlanker
58 FC305830 2004F314 ScrSaver
59 FC306114 201BDB14 Serial%1
FC306114 00000000 Serial%Base
60 FC307C9C 20048914 SerialDeviceSupport
61 FC308374 00000000 ShellCLI
62 FC3089E4 20050834 SoundDMA
63 FC30AD54 20050A54 SoundControl
64 FC30C444 20051E94 SoundChannels
65 FC30DCB8 20054054 SoundScheduler
66 FC30E6DC 20056074 SpriteExtend
67 FC333298 00000000 SpriteUtils
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69 FC3354E8 2005A354 BootFX
70 FC337F64 00000000 SuperSample
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72 FC339908 2005BBD4 TaskWindow
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79 FC3411B8 00000000 Filer_Action
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*

What happens if you delete Youtubedl, reboot and run from a task window,

3. Launch, in order: FFmpeg (double-click, no iconbar icon); FFPlay; Youtubedl; YTPlay.

Right so you seem to have have the older standalone YouTubeDL being seen and run and that is no longer required if you install via pip or YTPlay optioin which put these in PythonSite in Resources if you installed the packages correctly.

As others have said don’t import anything from another setup but use the tools available to install.

If you are following the install set out on Riscository then that is an older way for earlier versions of YTPlay and should not be used or mixed.

Also when installing via the YTPlay options you will get an initial error so install it and youtube-search a second time without rebooting the system.

I deleted/updated youtubedl as advised by Chris, and, after a considerable delay – it worked!! The ‘unknown operand’ error message appeared and the YTPlay icon vanished, as usual, but this time the process was evidently proceeding. I’d import a celebratory screengrab if I knew how (Textile reference below is bereft of instructions AFAICS). FWIW that was using YTPlay V3.02a. Thanks to all for your patience.

Hi George,

Good to hear you have it fixed and now you have 3.02a working perhaps you may wish to try 3.10, or then again not :-)

Hope you find some interesting Youtube clips to entertain you.

If you are following the install set out on Riscository

Originally, I did. It might be helpful for Vince H to add an update para. to the instructions. I appreciate that maintainers of websites such as Riscository – which I find extremely useful – cannot be expected to constantly revise historic entries every time software is updated, but in this case the current instructions (dating from Jan 25, 2020) are positively misleading.

George,

In defence of Vince those instructions were based on my usage and set up and following a MUG event where some people asked how to play YouTube video’s and asked for some instructions.

The update to YTPlay also came about with some dialogue between myself , Raik and others to make it easier following some feedback from others who found it a bit harder using the old method.

So two steps forward and one back for some.

Raik has some good points in his YTPlay help file on installing and setting up things and perhaps he could also make a change to state if you are upgrading from older versions to dispense with old and standalone versions of YouTube-DL and YouTube-Search.

Anyway you are there now and just proves when you provide what you think is helpful at the time that you can please some of the people sometimes but not please all of the people all of the time :-)

It might be helpful for Vince H to add an update para. to the instructions

You’ve sent an email, right?

Looks like I should think about a YTPlay-PackMan version with all dependencies but is this possible?

Packit available via PackMan can be used to create a package for YTPlay.

See the RISC OS Packaging Guide.

You’ve sent an email, right?

Already done with a suggestion that it makes clear the article is valid for the versions of the programs and helpers refered to in the instructions and to follow the advice in the current YTPlay helpfile.

One out of date article down , now Rick how about you updating your Samba help article from 2001 before someone complains about you trying to help as Windows 3.11 is so retro :-)