key down / up events to wimp?

Hmm. I was starting to wonder if there was any way to synthesise what I need by some combination of key press events and scanning for key codes but maybe this combo of deep keys & keystate can do it. Something like -

for each key that is listed as down last time,
check if still down – if not, remove from list and pass Squeak a key-up
wimp_poll key press event provides char & keycode via DeepKeys
pass Squeak a key-char event
check to see if key code is still down
if not, pass Squeak key-up, break
if yes, record the key as down for next time

I think that even has the potential advantage of not repeating key-up events for auto-repeat key events. There is a potential issue with the order of key release not matching reality, I think – press A, press B, release A, release B would provide wimp-key events for A, B and then depending on exactly how long things took before the wimp-poll that read the B press, you might have released both before ever checking for them being still down. Then it’s a by-product of how the hold was recorded that decides whether you think A or B was released first. I guess it comes down to making sure polling happens frequently enough.

‘Proper’ events would certainly still be nicer ;-)

What a great idea.

Oh, I dunno. The web page states that it has only been tested three times, and there’s no indication that it was tested on non-British keyboard layouts. Are you sure it’ll be reliable?

[note: tongue sticking out so much it hurts :-P :-P ]

That could be an issue – I’m living in the rainforest on a Pacific Island, using a US layout keyboard. D’ya think it’ll work?

Remember to get that tongue back in before yo ufo over a pothole…

I’m living in the rainforest on a Pacific Island

Well, at least your weather ought to be better than ours… http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2296185/UK-weather-March-coldest-50-years-winter-expected-stay-week.html (clue in the URL!)

I put my tongue back in. Needed it for eating chocolate. ;-)

Hah. Well the day before yesterday we got gazillion mph winds, followed by torrential rain followed by a 6 hr power outage. Yesterday we got snow. Today we got rid of the snow. and double-digit temperatures. Tomorrow Is expect hail of snails or similar.

!!!! Didn’t I read a weather forecast like that in the book of Revelations? You know, the bit that finally gets interesting.
Better charge up my camcorder battery and curse those Mayans for their off-by-one error…

Reviving an oldish topic.

and http://cerilica.com/ appears to be a Japanese dating site!? [looks like, via archive.org, the keyboard was only available for a short time in 2001]

http://www.cerilica.com/ is still a Japanese dating site. But http://www.cerilica.co.uk/ which was registered only last month holds a rather nice looking stained-glass-window sort of image, and a copyright to Cerilica from ’99. The site is registered to a Mr. Birtwistle. Doing some digging around, I now think I understand why a certain somebody here has a better keyboard than the rest of us ;-) and, frankly, this whole thing is interesting is it not? The possibility of a returning RISC OS company? Times are looking interesting, what with the RaspberryPi, new books; a sort of reinvigoration.

Dammit, I’m even a little bit excited. That’s a lot for somebody that considers Yuki Nagato to be a role model.

I expect nothing less than a 32bit ARMv7 compatible stable feature-complete release of Vantage.

No pressure then!! I for one would be happy to see another developer back in the fold bring it on. everyone in agreement say I

everyone in agreement say I

I believe you mean: “everyone in agreement say aye” otherwise it’s statement.

Much as I’d like to see lots of developers around, only if they aren’t likely to lose money.

only if they aren’t likely to lose money.

Is there much money is software these days? The “free” software movement has shaken things up a fair bit in that respect. I wonder if non-specialist software will eventually devolve into a hobby rather than an actual paying-the-bills job (though for our market, that may well be a case of “carry on as you were” ;-) ).

Is there much money is software these days?

Please note that I said " only if they aren’t likely to lose money" as I wasn’t really expecting a situation where they could retire on the profits. The problems always come when the developer spends money on packaging etc and doesn’t cover that.

Steffen played to the gallery with:

I expect nothing less than a 32bit ARMv7 compatible stable feature-complete release of Vantage.

Little known fact: Vantage was the very first third party program demonstrated on the Iyonix at its launch. In fact the only place you could see an Iyonix other than on Castle’s stand was on Cerilica’s. *

However, I never released that version for a number of reasons, including having to give the Iyonix back and not having been impressed enough to buy one. It was in no way a Nucleus.

As for the speculation, best not to. I’m sorry I let cerilica.com go, so I’m parking cerilica.co.uk for professional but not commercial purposes.

I have so little time as it is.

* And the amazing thing was that at that show, Vantage’s Truism-colour-managed, anti-aliased, affine transformed, dithered sprite rendering was faster than OS_SpriteOp. Fortunately Castle fixed that before release.

Little known fact: the IYONIX pc was presented to the public on a German trade fair a few days before the “official” UK presentation. And I didn’t demonstrate Vantage on it ;-)