Prog in a Task Window

When running a Prog in a Task Window does the RO Internet Calls work the same as in Windows?

ie not stopping the machine while awaiting for a reply.

I think it may depend on how the prog is written. Sockets block unless they are explicitly set non-blocking.

Non blocking sockets work fine, I’ve used them in my Inetd application which I wrote some years ago.

There is an socket option you can use to be able to blocking sockets in TaskWindows (so an upcall is used to yield), but it works pretty badly and makes the machine crawl, so it’s best to use non blocking, and that means a lot of jumping through hoops in a RISC OS application compared to what you do everywhere else.

Hmm – do a ‘Rick’ and run the Prog as a single task.

It’s a Morse over the Internet Prog – if I can find it – written in ‘C’.

It’s a simpler version of the main CWCom Prog.

It would have been nice if I could have found out what is being sent Out / Received over the Internet – bit above my pay grade :-(

Hmm – do a ‘Rick’ and run the Prog as a single task.

Task windows aren’t a magic solution. They make a lot work, but… some stuff… is harder.

It’s a Morse over the Internet Prog

Hmm, now that’s dedication for you.

Sorry, I meant: - .... .- -     .. ...     -.. . -.. .. -.-. .- - .. --- -.     ..-. --- .-.     -.-- --- ..- .-.-.-

what is being sent Out / Received over the Internet – bit above my pay grade :-(

Well, you’re running it single-tasking right? Well, in that case if you have the sources you just need to look for where it is doing the sending and/or the receiving, and paste in something like printf("."); or printf("-"); (and maybe a @printf(" “);” in between characters!).

Hmm, playing with the settings at https://morsecode.world/international/translator.html I can hear up to 15kHz, but I suspect the main problem here might be the ability of my phone to actually reproduce these frequencies.

Edit: Heh, the amplifier via Bluetooth tops out at around 12,500Hz. I’d try with the headphone jack but, well, this phone doesn’t have one.

That being said, I’m not sure I’d particularly miss above 15kHz. It gave me a weird feeling like I used to get when I turned my monitor on in the morning, which kind of made me feel nauseous until it warmed up. I’d often turn it on and then go make a cuppa.

Hmm, tea, that’s what I need right now.

What’s this 15KHz that you speak of? There’s nothing north of about 7KHz for me these days, but it does mean I can get the computer to make noises I can’t hear that annoy the children anywhere in the house, and the wife if she is close enough.

What’s this 15KHz that you speak of?

Okay, I can hear 15kHz when played on my other phone through the amplifier to full size speakers, but the phone struggles to reproduce this frequency (search YouTube for a channel called “Beeps, Chirps, and Noise”). I cannot hear 16kHz, though while it’s probably my ears I wonder if there are hardware factors involved in here too.

There’s nothing north of about 7KHz for me these days

Eh? That’s A8 on a piano (just a few notes up from the end of a lower-priced 61 key piano).

If you have a MIDI keyboard and my USB MIDI module: *MidiUSBSend 114 117 120 (you might need to turn the volume up)
It’s like the tinkle of the Japanese bell in the wind.

Speaking of which…

SYS "MIDI_TxProgramChange", 14 : REM Music box
SYS "MIDI_TxNoteOn", 117, 80   : REM A8

and the wife if she is close enough.

Seems that male hearing drops off fairly rapidly with age, while female hearing rather less so. Is this a gender thing, or is it simply because men tend to be more exposed to louder noises?

Just hope that the Drucklets don’t find out that pulling out this plug – stops that horrible noise :-)

I just ran a frequency sweep test. I’m 73, but I didn’t top out until 14kHz. At which point it’s indistinguishable from my tinnitus.

I found this hearing test interesting: https://www.resound.com/en-gb/online-hearing-test – it tests how well you can pick out words against background noise. The test gave me no problems, 100% right answers. But it uses non-meaningful background noise, whereas I know for a fact that meaningful background noise gives me problems.

Okay, I can hear 15kHz when played on my other phone
Are you sure?

15 kHz: sorry, but at 40+ you probably only hear harmonics :)
(hint: you’re not a dog or a bat :) )

I’m 73, but I didn’t top out until 14kHz.

So you’re a bat (or a dog).

but at 40+ you probably only hear harmonics

See my post just above yours. I can tell it’s not harmonics, because the rising pitch is discernibly rising the whole time. When you’re hearing harmonics, the pitch seems to drop and then rise again at intervals.

Clearly never been to a Motorhead gig then to thoroughly ruin your hearing for later life!

I did have a proper test at 40 and could still discern 16kHz, but not now (60); more like 11.5.

Clearly never been to a Motorhead gig

Indeed not. A few classical concerts, and one Pink Floyd gig in my late teens. I do have good ear protection that I always use when I’m using power tools…

Clearly never been to a Motorhead gig then to thoroughly ruin your hearing for later life!

They came along after the noise level limitations came in¹ although I’ve been told of ways their fans increased their personal volume² which sound all too believable.
Hawkwind managed a few loud excursions too. The Birmingham town hall gig was more notable for being hot/sweaty to the extent that it “rained” from the ceiling. I might have been drier if I’d wandered in to visit the “floozy in the Jacuzzi”

¹ In the books as loudest band in 1972 was Deep Purple. The Who in 1976 was recorded as 126. The unverified Motorhead level was claimed to be 130 dB and “ten dB louder than the Who” – can’t be both.

don’t find out that pulling out this plug

I would imagine the Drucklets understand that removing random plugs is not conducive to their well-being.

15 kHz: sorry, but at 40+ you probably only hear harmonics :)

At 40, 15kHz should be possible for the average adult. This drops to around 12kHz for the average 50 year old. But, again, this depends upon how well one treats their ears, genetic factors, illnesses, etc etc.

So it’s a little unusual that, a few months off 50, I can still hear 15kHz, but it’s not that unusual. It’s not like “oh, I’m pregnant”.

So you’re a bat

Well, given that I’m kind of a failed goth, my little black heart beats in the night amongst the cobwebs.
So, yeah, I guess I’m a bat. 🦇

Clearly never been to a Motorhead gig then

Gig = Crowd = People (many plural) = Nope.

I’d love to go to Hellfest (Nightwish, Epica, Sabaton, etc etc) and it’s only 100km(ish) away in that pretty town that mom and I used to go shopping often.
But…
…people. 😐

They came along after the noise level limitations

Towards the end of my days as a carer, I was dragged to some sort of club in Camberley.
No idea what the music was, my only impression was of feeling it in my stomach more than in my ears, and “screw this, I’m going home”.

They caught up with me, and we had a lovely meal in some sort of pub that had a lot of candles and no background musak. Much better.

Hmm, playing with the settings at https://morsecode.world/international/translator.html I can hear up to 15kHz

Coincidentally I happen to know that the creator of that site owned an Archimedes for a while. I think I still have his set of the RISC OS 2 PRMs somewhere.