VirtualRPC-DL and network?

How can I use a network with VirtualRPC-DL? Is has no Tcp/Ip or a network card. It has only Econet.

RCPEmu has Tcp/Ip and a network card. With bridging it is possible to use the network card from the Windows pc.

Micky

Does your Windows (XP) machine contact the Internet or Local network ok?

Yes, I have local network and internet.

Micky

Seems long ago when I did this – have you tried running (!Boot)

Then !Internet and entering your router details etc.

Then !Internet and entering your router details etc.

VRPC picks up the host’s (Windows’) internet settings, and piggybacks off those, doesn’t it? So there probably isn’t much to configure on the RISC OS side, beyond perhaps a checkbox somewhere (more likely in the host-side VRPC config?) to enable internet sharing?

In case it’s not obvious, I’m not a VRPC user… :-)

No setup needed just works with select 6.2 on windows 11 or windows 10 go to you browser type in a URL job done.

My copy of VRPC-SA works without any configuration needed with RISC OS 4. However, I only use it to test my code, so network wise I have ran only few things.

Bear in mind that if you’re using !NetSurf, then you’ll need an old version. I believe NetSurf stopped being able to use the network on VRPC since release 3.8 (at least on the Mac), so I have a feeling that not everything works fine on VRPC. Given Aaron has had some “bizarre” behavior over the years (kinda almost against the community, with never re-publishing APDL lost site, the funny license activation, which can break even with a simple OS upgrade etc.). No one cares to support NetSurf on VRPC (or anything else actually) and mostly VRPC is considered abandoned (even from who’s supposed to maintain it, for ex. doesn’t work on Apple M1 etc…), so I would stick to something that is actually maintained like RPCEmu. Just my 0.2c

No configuration within RISC OS on VRPC should be done and as Steve Fryatt says it all comes from the host OS internet settings.

But really hope Micky is not actauly connecting to the internet via Win XP, XP is now far, far too insecure to go on the internet!!

Ah ok. I can reach the internet.

The problem is that my NWClient did not see a network card with VirtualRPC-DL. This means it did not work. Under RPCEmu it sees one and works. But RPCEmu can’t read, format and write floppy disks.

I need both, Novell access and real floppy support.

What is with the other versions from VirtualRPC? Have they a network card?

Micky

What is with the other versions from VirtualRPC? Have they a network card?

I’m fairly sure that they all use the same trick of a shim layer between RISC OS and Windows, so they will probably have the same issue. That said, I don’t use any of them, so I don’t have first-hand knowledge.

RPCEmu presents RISC OS with a real network¹, so you’re using standard RISC OS network components.

¹ Although IIRC it now has an option to do what VirtualRPC does, as for many uses that’s a lot easier to get working. Not in your case, though!

What is with the other versions from VirtualRPC? Have they a network card?

I believe that VirtualRPC’s networking is restricted to TCP/IP.

I need both, Novell access and real floppy support.

Looks like having both in one package is not an option. VirtualRPC is not being developed (as far as I know). I doubt that RPCEmu authors will add real floppy support given how rare they are and how few wish to use actual floppies rather than disc images.

I not sure what you are trying to do with Floppies – can you use DOS formatted floppies?

Which can be read by Acorn and DOS machines.

RPCEmu can’t handle real floppys, only floppy images. No handle form Dos formatted floppys too.

I need a emulator which can do both. Handle from real floppy disks and have access to Novell Netware.

Micky

RPCEmu can’t handle real floppys, only floppy images.

You’ve already been pointed at OmniFlop. Just take an image of a floppy, give that to the emulator…

and have access to Novell Netware.

…a proprietary system discontinued nearly fifteen years ago is not likely to be on anybody’s work list, especially given that NetWare wasn’t ever really a “thing” in the Acorn world.

Even moreso if you’re referring to the IPX/SPX flavour.

RPCEmu … No handle form Dos formatted floppys too

But you can transfer data to/from DOS format floppy from the host system.

Just take an image of a floppy, give that to the emulator

If you have data that you care about on floppies, image them now. Or transfer the data off the old floppies using VRPC-DL and package it up with SparkFS (it’s now free) on RISC OS for archiving / transfer to RPCEmu system.

I know, but I’m a fan of floppy discs and Novell Netware. I have a Token Ring network with Netware too.

Micky

I have a Token Ring network with Netware too

Now that’s just pure masochism.

I know, but I’m a fan of floppy discs and Novell Netware.

Ah, that is an important distinction. You just WANT real floppy disc support, you dont really NEED it.

I suggest you add it to RPCEmu then (with the slight problem that hardware with native floppy interfacing is slowly dying out), so why not do a GreaseWeazle driver for RISC OS, for both emulators and USB-supporting native hardware.

Sounds good. I ordered one from here.

https://amigastore.eu/es/894-greaseweazle-v41.html

Micky

but I’m a fan of floppy discs and Novell Netware

Multiple abends are occurring, processor halted.

😉

I wonder how long the queue of people asking about the availability of the driver will be?

I wonder how long the queue of people asking about the availability of the driver will be?

Oh, very long I think.

Micky