Artworks 2.X3.01 does not center-align properly

Hello,
I went to the following problem with Artworks 2.X3.01.
I draw two polygones (no square or rectangle) of different size and select both
I then invoke the Alignment command and select Top to bottom Align center and Left to right Align Center.
I am expecting that the two objects align at their center point… but it is not the case and there is a visible deviation. The deviation is even more pronounced when you “stellate” one of the object.
Maybe it is normal behaviour, but then there is sth I don’t understand.

Does anyone has ever noticed this?

Thank you.

François

What happens if you select one of the objects and do Objects/Centre on page/Both and then select the other object and do Objects/Centre on page/Both? It should make the bounding box of each move to the centre of the page.

Hello Chris

No, that does not make a difference. The deviation is still present.
Note that the deviation is even worse if you have rotated the stellated object beforehand.

Alignment of rectangles and ellipses is OK.

Regards

François

The bounding rectangle of each polygon should be centred, not the polygon itself. If they are both held within a group, the bounding rectangle of the group will be centred not its individual contents.

If the polygon is drawn on a white background then it is the bounding box of the whole thing that is centred. An example would help!!

Hello,

Here are screenshots to demonstrate what I think is a problem:
Before alignement:

And after…

Even if the surrounding boxes might be aligned, this does not look good…

Regards

François

For those using browsers that would refuse to show mixed-mode content, I pulled the image references from the page source:

http://yourname.free.nf/public/aw2_center_aligned_before.png
and:
http://yourname.free.nf/public/aw2_center_aligned_after.png

I see there’s a centre-point crosshair. Is it possible to display bounding boxes? Maybe that’s where the problem lies?

For those using browsers that would refuse to show mixed-mode content,

Which would be anyone using Edge, Chrome or Firefox (probably that Mac thing too) – so, just not a good idea to reference any HTTP pages in an HTTPS page

I pulled the image references from the page source:

The source being one that seemingly has no HTTPS support

Artworks will align the bounding boxes, not the centre of gravity of the shape. Rotating a pentagon so that one side is vertical will mean that the ‘centre’ of the pentagon is no longer equidistant from the left and right hand edges of the bounding box.

Which would be anyone using Edge, Chrome or Firefox (probably that Mac thing too) – so, just not a good idea to reference any HTTP pages in an HTTPS page

I am using NetSurf and RiscOS Direct… and it displays well… So… What else? :D
Edit: duckduckgo browser on Android display the mixed content without problem

The source being one that seemingly has no HTTPS support

It is a free webhosting… and they does not allow https for free.

Artworks will align the bounding boxes, not the centre of gravity of the shape. Rotating a pentagon so that one side is vertical will mean that the ‘centre’ of the pentagon is no longer equidistant from the left and right hand edges of the bounding box.

Ok, i can understand. It is not a bug, it is a feature… but that does not look right to me.
So, is there a way to get ‘center of gravity’ alignement ?

EDIT: got it. I can reach the expected result by cloning the original object and transforming the clone without touching to the position of both the original and the clone.

Thank you.

François

I am using NetSurf and RiscOS Direct… and it displays well… So… What else? :D

How to shrink a user base 101

I am using NetSurf

Security isn’t exactly a strong point in the RISC OS world.

duckduckgo browser on Android display the mixed content without problem

Seems a bit odd for a privacy conscious browser.

and they does not allow https for free.

That’s a great way to lose clients these days, given that the stricter browsers will scream bloody murder at non-encrypted sites.

Take a look at: https://forum.infinityfree.com/docs?topic=49323

but that does not look right to me.

I think it’s a difference between what happens and what one expects to happen.

That being said, if it’s able to calculate and plot a cross hair in the middle, why can’t it use that as a reference point for alignment? It would be more logical than using invisible bounding boxes.

Take a look at: https://forum.infinityfree.com/docs?topic=49323

Thank you so much Rick for this information. I just configured my SSL certificate.

But there it is weird that if I update the link in my previous post to use https instead http, no browser (not even NetSurf or DuckDuckGo) displays the pictures.

Cheers

François

But there it is weird that if I update the link in my previous post to use https instead http, no browser (not even NetSurf or DuckDuckGo) displays the pictures.

Why are the images wrapped in JavaScript?

Why are the images wrapped in JavaScript?

Hello Stuart, I just followed the Textile reference https://textile-lang.com/doc/images

I am not sure to understand your statement ‘wrapped in JavaScript’ :/

But I have updated my original post and removed the enclosing plings (!).

Regards

I am not sure to understand your statement ‘wrapped in JavaScript’ :/

In that when I click on the URL to the image (or just copy the URL to the address bar), I get ‘This site requires Javascript to work, please enable Javascript in your browser or use a browser with Javascript support’ (me being one of those awkwards sods who refuse to run JavaScript unless I really really need to)

I get ‘This site requires Javascript to work, please enable Javascript in your browser or use a browser with Javascript support’

Indeed, it looks as if InfinityFree (the web hoster) requires JavaScript to be activated to access pages via https. As I forced url rewrite to https, the site was not accessible to ‘no javascript’ browsers.
I just removed the rewrite to allow http access.

Thanks for pointing this to me.

Regards

François

requires JavaScript to be activated to access pages via https

What the hell for? Embedded advertising?

What the hell for? Embedded advertising?

Extract from the home page of the service: “PHP & MySQL | No ads on your site | Over 500,000 websites”

Doesn’t explain the JavaScript though…

I just went to the image URL and bunged an ‘s’ in the first place. It quietly redirected me to https://yourname.free.nf/public/aw2_center_aligned_before.png?i=1 (note the ?i=1 at the end).
Removing that manually works too, so…?

Anyway…

I just removed the rewrite to allow http access.

That’s the wrong answer, of course. ;)

Better to simply edit the original post to reference the SSL images.

For completeness, here’s the other one: https://yourname.free.nf/public/aw2_center_aligned_after.png?i=1

I just went to the image URL and bunged an ‘s’ in the first place. It quietly redirected me to https://yourname.free.nf/public/aw2_center_aligned_before.png?i=1 (note the ?i=1 at the end).

They have a FAQ, and I recall seeing that specific item:

“https://forum.infinityfree.com/docs?topic=49356”

So, if you’d visited the site without the ?i=1 at the end, it would redirect to the version with and send you the cookie.

Better to simply edit the original post to reference the SSL images

I think François did that, and then reverted to the broken HTTP version, rather than do the HTTPS and have Stuart make an effort to turn on javascript for a short while.

I wonder whether they have some backend magic that you may set per site to append a query in order to defeat client-side caching if the server is otherwise configured with long expiration times for images etc.