A Few questions on Builder Process

Just installed the RISC OS Development Toolkit and downloaded the ROOL Sources and having a little bit of a play with it all and have a few questions that I’m hoping someone can answer

I’m interested in updating some of the standard Applications that come with RISCOS. When It Build a new version of some Apps such as Alarm and Chars, they get Built and the resulting Application is built in the current Obey$ Folder, whereas other Apps such as Paint will get Built and the resulting file will appear in the Install.App Folder. Is there a reason for this? And which method is the correct/preferred method?

Where multiple resource files exist for different geographic locations, how does one go about updating each Template file? I would have suspected that they should be the same but with perhaps different string used in them. Again, what’s the preferred way of handling this? Alarm has Template files for both Germany and the UK. Hopefully there is a nice simple approach to this.

Once a developer is happy with their changes and wants to submit them back into the ROOL Source, what is the actual end-to-end process? Is there a vetting process whereby people refuse to accept things if they don’t like the changes (I’m thinking more like changes to GUI, rather than a Linus Trovald’s ‘bad programming style’ rant)

Apologies if these are all obvious questions.

This is what I would do.

1) Run Builder
2) select the directory and build environment.
3) compile the rom if it is not already compiled
4) goto the application directory of the application you want to change.
5) click on ‘!mkclean’ to remove the rom compilation
6) make any changes and click on ‘!mk’. Where the compiled app appears doesn’t matter as long as you can find it – that’s your development version.
7) when you are happy with your changes and want to put them in the rom click on ‘!mkclean’ and compile the rom from !builder just ticking ‘Make rom’, ‘Install rom’, ‘Join rom’ – should take about 2mins.

The trick is to always create the build environment using !builder – do not boot the DDE.

You submit your changes to ‘code at riscosopen dot org’

When It Build a new version of some Apps such as Alarm and Chars, they get Built and the resulting Application is built in the current Obey$ Folder, whereas other Apps such as Paint will get Built and the resulting file will appear in the Install.App Folder. Is there a reason for this?

The makefiles are two different styles (from two different eras)

And which method is the correct/preferred method?

I believe the newer method is to build into the Install.App folder

The trick is to always create the build environment using !builder – do not boot the DDE

Shortcut on the Pinboard, run that and the rest of the contents around Builder don’t get the chance to !boot and register.