Pluto questions

I’ve been using Pluto for years. Recently updated to the current release. In general, excellent.

However I somehow lost contact with the email list(s) ages ago. And I hit a problem this morning. So want to raise it here, and to see if someone can tell me if there are still two active lists? Or is their now effectively just the one (yahoogroups) mentioned on the avisoft webpage?

The problem was someone – without asking me first – sending me an email with a 20MB attachment. The current Pluto abandoned debatching once it hit this and said it won’t accept anything > 16 MB. The items prior to this in the batch were read in OK. But thos after were not. Which raises two questions:

1) I recall there were apps that would convert attachments like this, but I can’t recall where to get them. Nor know if they’ll work on my ARMX6. Can anyone say, please? The attached item might be worth having although I suspect it tells me something I don’t need to know. But I can’t find out unless I unpack it.

2) I can hand-edit such an ‘afflicted’ set of emails in the fetched file. But it would seem better to me if there was a better way to deal with this kind of situation. I’m currently using PopStar but wondering about alternatives of if – once I can join the email list – ask for Pluto to be able to ‘skip over’ such cruft and still read in later, saner, emails. Or should it have done that anyway?…

Jim

FWIW I just found and tried John Allen’s UUcoder but that failed to run and gave an error.

Jim

The problem was someone – without asking me first – sending me an email with a 20MB attachment.

I thought one of the fixes Martin and Rob did was related to oversize attachments? Are you using 3.14?

Also PopStar can be set to not download mails over a specific size IIRC (but I use AntiSpam as a downloader and the oversize bit is covered in that (as well as use of DNSBL and other filters.

I’ve been using Pluto for years. Recently updated to the current release.

I assume you mean v3.14? Always less ambiguous to state actual version.

Or is their now effectively just the one (yahoogroups) mentioned on the avisoft webpage?

There is another, but I have not seen it used for years and years. The webpage is correct. The Help manual also says the same.

The problem was someone – without asking me first – sending me an email with a 20MB attachment.

Without wanting to pre-announce anything, the next version will lift that restriction. And with an option to skip emails over 12MB. Should be available in the next couple of weeks.

Yes, I’m using 3.14. I can’t recall the precise message but it was to the effect that it had detected an email/attachment > 16 megs and was treating it as suspect.

It doesn’t matter if I can’t discover what’s hidden in the base64. I almost certainly already have it or don’t want it. But not knowing leaves the nagging feeling that I might have welcomed it if I’d only known. 8-]

I’ll join the yahoogroups list. I can’t recall why I lost being on one of the lists. It was years ago.

It would be nice if the ‘skip over’ made it easy to save the ‘excised’ email as a distinct file. I’ve tried editing the file left in the backups and this is difficult with both !Edit and !Deskedit because it is so very large.

Thanks,

Jim

And with an option to skip emails over 12MB.

Fixed at 12MB or variable limit?

As Jim says an option to save out the attachment without the MIME ‘expansion’ would be nice.

Yes, I’m using 3.14. I can’t recall the precise message but it was to the effect that it had detected an email/attachment > 16 megs and was treating it as suspect.

Thinking about it the earlier fix may have been not going base over apex on large attachments

1) I recall there were apps that would convert attachments like this, but I can’t recall where to get them.

SparkFS?

FWIW I just found and tried John Allen’s UUcoder but that failed to run and gave an error.

Did you download it from his website ? His !Attacher, which supercedes UUCoder, seems to work ok on my Pi.

I got UUcoder from his website. Since then I’ve been blocked at an earlier point.

I normally use !DeskEdit. I have a copy of the mail file that contains all the items that were downloaded. (Took this from the backups Pluto keeps.) It contains all the emails. I tried deleting what comes before and after the wanted base64 coded section. I can delete what comes before. But trying to delete what comes after always highlights everything from the start of the file. I guess this is because the file is so very big and its a bug. However !Edit gives me the same problem.

As a result I’ve not yet managed to get a file I could give to a decoding program! I’ve now had to put this on hold as I have to do other things. May come back to it later.

I wondered if SparkFS would work, but for the above reason haven’t been able to check. Similarly I found !Attacher, but can’t try it.

Jim

Have you tried feeding the entire file to Attacher? I seem to remember it will pick up any encoded piece, no matter where it is in the file (can’t check as I don’t have a suitable file available right now). Make sure you have Attacher 1.05, by the way.