HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 Wifi

Dear all

I am wondering if there is any chance to use my HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 connected to my internet box via Wifi.
I have licenses for both mw-software GutenPrint and r-comp Network Printer Drivers.

But until now I have been unsuccessfull…

Thank you for your help.

François

Inkjets need a PCL3 driver, I think. I’m new to RO so I don’t know if one exists but a standard PCL3 driver using the printer IP should work. You may have to manually set the IP address for the printer to a static one.

Inkjets need a PCL3 driver

Phosphorus trichloride? Maybe that explains why it’s cheaper to buy a new printer than a set of replacement cartridges.

More seriously now – there is a good chance that the HP printer mentioned will accept PCL (edit – yes, PCL3e), given that it’s a de facto standard created by HP, however most domestic inkjet printers will not understand PCL, or any other page description language. Their processing is too simple, the data sent is a set of proprietary codes for stuff like head alignment and cleaning, and a CYMK bitmap of some sort that can be directly output to the print heads. Plus, unlike laser printers that work a page at a time, inkjets work on strips, so you will be unlikely to find many that are even capable of holding an entire page worth of bitmap in memory. Try it yourself – you’ll probably find that if you perform a regular colour copy (direct scan→print mode), it’ll move the scan head maybe an inch or two at a time, and even draft monochrome copy, you’ll be unlikely to read in more than 1/2 to 2/3 of the page before pausing.
Basic domestic inkjets need a lot of help from the host.

I had a look at getting some information on my cheap Pixma (MG2450, I think) but Canon weren’t willing to share information about anything made this decade. There’s a driver for Windows, and one for Linux, and maybe a Mac one too. For everything else……..

I am wondering if there is any chance to use my HP OfficeJet Pro 8610 connected to my internet box via Wifi.
I have licenses for both mw-software GutenPrint and r-comp Network Printer Drivers.

But until now I have been unsuccessfull…

Can you tell us what type of RISC OS computer you are using? It may be relevant.

When you are trying to set up RISC OS wit a networked printer, you might find it easier to try connecting the printer direct to the RISC OS computer via USB first, and set up the printer driver that way. Is that possible to do with your printer and RISC OS computer?

Getting it working via USB cuts out the complication of the networking aspects, allowing you to concentrate on getting the printer driver working. I would advise using Gutenprint if it supports your printer. A PCL driver has been suggested but the Acorn PCL driver is old and does not support colour printing, so use Gutenprint if you can.

Once you have it working when connected direct, you can then try the next step of changing the connection to a networked one. If you have bought network printer drivers from R-Comp then e-mail R-Comp for support with this bit: they are usually very helpful in supporting their products.

Acorn PCL driver is old and does not support colour printing

PCL is a vague term. I believe this printer users a PCL3c+ driver, which is colour. Gutenprint has PCL drivers, I just didn’t know it was on RO.

The RISC OS HP PCL printer driver does not support Colour. I’d expect trying to print using one of the HP PCL drivers would give a dithered output.

I think I’m being misunderstood. PCL is the Printer Command Language and there are many versions from PCL 1 through to PCL 6. “HP PCL Driver” is so unbelievably vague, which is probably why there is confusion to what I am saying. Not all PCLs are equal.

PCL 1 – 3 are mono and quite old. PCL 3+ is mono but PCL 3c+ is colour. According to here your printer needs a PCL3GUI driver. So PCL3GUI is the right fit.

Gutenprint has a PCL3GUI driver, so that should work. As Matthew stated, check all works well with USB first. Then move onto network printing after. Will save yourself a headache.

James you are correct, I should have restricted my comments about RISC OS not printing in colour to PCL4, 5 & 6.
I was thinking that the OfficeJet Pro 8610 was a laser printer (which would be PCL4, 5 or 6) but I now realise it is inkjet and would expect the standard Acorn PCL3 driver to print to it in colour.

Hello
Thank you all for your help. So, there is hope.
I will try connecting my printer with USB and then try to use network as advice above.
I will ket you know the result…

Cheers
François

Hello

I have been trying this morning to find an adequate driver for the printer and to print from USB.
I have not found anything like PCL3GUI within the GutenPrint drivers from mw-softwares.
So far, I have only been successful to print (B&W) withe the standard DeskJet+ driver.
I have tried some DesignJet driver without success.
It has been written above that Gutenprint has a PCL3GUI driver… I anyone could point me to it, it wuold be much appreciate. I anly found PCL4 and above drivers.

Thank you for your help.

François

Actually, it seems that none of the GutenPrint drivers works. I always get the error message “File ‘0000x’ not found”.

What version is it?

The latest available from the mw-softwares site: version 2.4.2 In the !ReadMe file, it is written that GPDriver2 is based on Gutenprint 5.2.5.

Regards

Is there a Generic PCL3, or Generic PCL3c+ driver? Might be called PCL3 Enhanced or similar?

Nope… here is the content of the Generic folder… It starts at PCL4

File name Printer name
-———————————————————————
PCL4 Generic PCL 4 Printer
PCL4LF Generic PCL 4 LF Printer
PCL5 Generic PCL 5 Printer
PCL5LF Generic PCL 5 LF Printer
PCL5c Generic PCL 5c Printer
PCL5cLF Generic PCL 5c LF Printer
PCL5e Generic PCL 5e Printer
PCL5eLF Generic PCL 5e LF Printer
PCL6/XL Generic PCL 6/PCL XL Printer
PCL6/XLLF Generic PCL 6/PCL XL LF Printer

and in the HP folder,i have the following list:
File name Printer name
-———————————————————————
BInk2200 HP Business Inkjet 2200
BInk2230 HP Business Inkjet 2230
BInk2250 HP Business Inkjet 2250
BInk2250TN HP Business Inkjet 2250TN
BInk2280 HP Business Inkjet 2280
ColICP1160 HP Color Inkjet Printer CP1160
ColICP1700 HP Color Inkjet Printer CP1700
CLJ2500 HP Color LaserJet 2500
CLJ4500 HP Color LaserJet 4500
CLJ4550 HP Color LaserJet 4550
CLJ4600 HP Color LaserJet 4600
CLJ5 HP Color LaserJet 5
CLJ5000 HP Color LaserJet 5000
CLJ5500 HP Color LaserJet 5500
CLJ8550GN HP Color LaserJet 8550GN
DJ230 HP DesignJet 230
DJ250C HP DesignJet 250C
DJ430 HP DesignJet 430
DJ450C HP DesignJet 450C
DJ455CA HP DesignJet 455CA
DJ488CA HP DesignJet 488CA
DJ700 HP DesignJet 700
DJ750CPlus HP DesignJet 750C Plus
DJ750C HP DesignJet 750C
DJ2500CP HP DesignJet 2500CP
DJ3500CP HP DesignJet 3500CP
DJColPrCAD HP DesignJet ColorPro CAD
DJ400 HP DeskJet 400
DJ420C HP DeskJet 420C
DJ450 HP DeskJet 450
DJ500 HP DeskJet 500
DJ500C HP DeskJet 500C
DJ505JPlus HP DeskJet 505J Plus
DJ510 HP DeskJet 510
DJ520 HP DeskJet 520
DJ540C HP DeskJet 540C
DJ550C HP DeskJet 550C
DJ5550 HP DeskJet 5550
DJ5551 HP DeskJet 5551
DJ560C HP DeskJet 560C
DJ600 HP DeskJet 600
DJ600C HP DeskJet 600C
DJ610C HP DeskJet 610C
DJ610CL HP DeskJet 610CL
DJ6122 HP DeskJet 6122
DJ6127 HP DeskJet 6127
DJ612C HP DeskJet 612C
DJ640C HP DeskJet 640C
DJ648C HP DeskJet 648C
DJ660C HP DeskJet 660C
DJ670C HP DeskJet 670C
DJ670TV HP DeskJet 670TV
DJ672C HP DeskJet 672C
DJ680C HP DeskJet 680C
DJ682C HP DeskJet 682C
DJ690C HP DeskJet 690C
DJ692C HP DeskJet 692C
DJ693C HP DeskJet 693C
DJ694C HP DeskJet 694C
DJ695C HP DeskJet 695C
DJ697C HP DeskJet 697C
DJ810C HP DeskJet 810C
DJ812C HP DeskJet 812C
DJ815C HP DeskJet 815C
DJ816C HP DeskJet 816C
DJ825C HP DeskJet 825C
DJ830C HP DeskJet 830C
DJ832C HP DeskJet 832C
DJ840C HP DeskJet 840C
DJ841C HP DeskJet 841C
DJ842C HP DeskJet 842C
DJ843C HP DeskJet 843C
DJ845C HP DeskJet 845C
DJ850C HP DeskJet 850C
DJ855C HP DeskJet 855C
DJ870C HP DeskJet 870C
DJ880C HP DeskJet 880C
DJ882C HP DeskJet 882C
DJ890C HP DeskJet 890C
DJ895C HP DeskJet 895C
DJ916C HP DeskJet 916C
DJ920C HP DeskJet 920C
DJ9300 HP DeskJet 9300
DJ930C HP DeskJet 930C
DJ932C HP DeskJet 932C
DJ933C HP DeskJet 933C
DJ934C HP DeskJet 934C
DJ935C HP DeskJet 935C
DJ940C HP DeskJet 940C
DJ948C HP DeskJet 948C
DJ950C HP DeskJet 950C
DJ952C HP DeskJet 952C
DJ955C HP DeskJet 955C
DJ957C HP DeskJet 957C
DJ959C HP DeskJet 959C
DJ960C HP DeskJet 960C
DJ970C HP DeskJet 970C
DJ975C HP DeskJet 975C
DJ980C HP DeskJet 980C
DJ990C HP DeskJet 990C
DJ995C HP DeskJet 995C
DJ1100C HP DeskJet 1100C
DJ1120C HP DeskJet 1120C
DJ1125C HP DeskJet 1125C
DJ1200C HP DeskJet 1200C
DJ1220C HP DeskJet 1220C
DJ1600C HP DeskJet 1600C
DJ1600CM HP DeskJet 1600CM
DJ2000 HP DeskJet 2000
DJ2500 HP DeskJet 2500
DJ2500CM HP DeskJet 2500CM
DJ340C HP DeskJet 340C
DJ3810 HP DeskJet 3810
DJ3816 HP DeskJet 3816
DJ3820 HP DeskJet 3820
DJ3822 HP DeskJet 3822
LJ2 HP LaserJet 2
LJ2D HP LaserJet 2D
LJ2PPlus HP LaserJet 2P Plus
LJ2P HP LaserJet 2P
LJ3 HP LaserJet 3
LJ3D HP LaserJet 3D
LJ3Pw/PCL5 HP LaserJet 3P w/ PCL5
LJ3Pw/PS HP LaserJet 3P w/PS
LJ4Plus HP LaserJet 4 Plus
LJ4 HP LaserJet 4
LJ4L HP LaserJet 4L
LJ4M HP LaserJet 4M
LJ4ML HP LaserJet 4ML
LJ4P HP LaserJet 4P
LJ4Si HP LaserJet 4Si
LJ4V HP LaserJet 4V
LJ5 HP LaserJet 5
LJ5L HP LaserJet 5L
LJ5M HP LaserJet 5M
LJ5MP HP LaserJet 5MP
LJ5P HP LaserJet 5P
LJ5Si HP LaserJet 5Si
LJ6 HP LaserJet 6
LJ6L HP LaserJet 6L
LJ6MP HP LaserJet 6MP
LJ6P HP LaserJet 6P
LJ1010 HP LaserJet 1010
LJ1012 HP LaserJet 1012
LJ1015 HP LaserJet 1015
LJ1022 HP LaserJet 1022
LJ1100 HP LaserJet 1100
LJ1100A HP LaserJet 1100A
LJ1150 HP LaserJet 1150
LJ1160 HP LaserJet 1160
LJ1200 HP LaserJet 1200
LJ1220 HP LaserJet 1220
LJ1300 HP LaserJet 1300
LJ1320 HP LaserJet 1320
LJ2100 HP LaserJet 2100
LJ2100M HP LaserJet 2100M
LJ2200 HP LaserJet 2200
LJ2300 HP LaserJet 2300
LJ2410 HP LaserJet 2410
LJ2420 HP LaserJet 2420
LJ2430 HP LaserJet 2430
LJ3015 HP LaserJet 3015
LJ3020 HP LaserJet 3020
LJ3030 HP LaserJet 3030
LJ3050 HP LaserJet 3050
LJ3052 HP LaserJet 3052
LJ3055 HP LaserJet 3055
LJ3200 HP LaserJet 3200
LJ3200m HP LaserJet 3200m
LJ3200se HP LaserJet 3200se
LJ3300MFP HP LaserJet 3300 MFP
LJ3310MFP HP LaserJet 3310 MFP
LJ3320MFP HP LaserJet 3320 MFP
LJ3320NMFP HP LaserJet 3320N MFP
LJ3330MFP HP LaserJet 3330 MFP
LJ3380 HP LaserJet 3380
LJ3390 HP LaserJet 3390
LJ3392 HP LaserJet 3392
LJ4000 HP LaserJet 4000
LJ4050 HP LaserJet 4050
LJ4100 HP LaserJet 4100
LJ4200 HP LaserJet 4200
LJ4240 HP LaserJet 4240
LJ4250 HP LaserJet 4250
LJ4300 HP LaserJet 4300
LJ4345mfp HP LaserJet 4345 mfp
LJ4350 HP LaserJet 4350
LJ5000 HP LaserJet 5000
LJ5100 HP LaserJet 5100
LJ5200 HP LaserJet 5200
LJ5200L HP LaserJet 5200L
LJ8000 HP LaserJet 8000
LJ8100 HP LaserJet 8100
LJ8150 HP LaserJet 8150
LJ9000 HP LaserJet 9000
LJ9040 HP LaserJet 9040
LJ9040MFP HP LaserJet 9040 MFP
LJ9050 HP LaserJet 9050
LJ9050MFP HP LaserJet 9050 MFP
LJM3027MFP HP LaserJet M3027 MFP
LJM3035MFP HP LaserJet M3035 MFP
LJM4345MFP HP LaserJet M4345 MFP
LJM5025MFP HP LaserJet M5025 MFP
LJM5035MFP HP LaserJet M5035 MFP
LJP2010 HP LaserJet P2010
LJP2015 HP LaserJet P2015
LJP3004 HP LaserJet P3004
LJP3005 HP LaserJet P3005
Mopier240 HP Mopier 240
Mopier320 HP Mopier 320
OJ300 HP OfficeJet 300
OJ330 HP OfficeJet 330
OJ350 HP OfficeJet 350
OJ500 HP OfficeJet 500
OJ520 HP OfficeJet 520
OJ570 HP OfficeJet 570
OJ580 HP OfficeJet 580
OJ590 HP OfficeJet 590
OJ600 HP OfficeJet 600
OJ610 HP OfficeJet 610
OJ625 HP OfficeJet 625
OJ630 HP OfficeJet 630
OJ635 HP OfficeJet 635
OJ700 HP OfficeJet 700
OJ710 HP OfficeJet 710
OJ720 HP OfficeJet 720
OJ725 HP OfficeJet 725
OJ5105 HP OfficeJet 5105
OJ5110 HP OfficeJet 5110
OJ5110xi HP OfficeJet 5110xi
OJ6105 HP OfficeJet 6105
OJ6110 HP OfficeJet 6110
OJ7110 HP OfficeJet 7110
OJ7130 HP OfficeJet 7130
OJ7140 HP OfficeJet 7140
OJD125 HP OfficeJet D125
OJD135 HP OfficeJet D135
OJD145 HP OfficeJet D145
OJD155 HP OfficeJet D155
OJG55 HP OfficeJet G55
OJG85 HP OfficeJet G85
OJG95 HP OfficeJet G95
OJK60 HP OfficeJet K60
OJK60xi HP OfficeJet K60xi
OJK80 HP OfficeJet K80
OJK80xi HP OfficeJet K80xi
OJLX HP OfficeJet LX
OJPro1150C HP OfficeJet Pro 1150C
OJPro1170C HP OfficeJet Pro 1170C
OJPro1175C HP OfficeJet Pro 1175C
OJR40 HP OfficeJet R40
OJR45 HP OfficeJet R45
OJR60 HP OfficeJet R60
OJR65 HP OfficeJet R65
OJR80 HP OfficeJet R80
OJT45 HP OfficeJet T45
OJT65 HP OfficeJet T65
OJV40 HP OfficeJet V40
OJV40xi HP OfficeJet V40xi
OJ HP OfficeJet
PSC370 HP PSC 370
PSC380 HP PSC 380
PSC500 HP PSC 500
PSC750 HP PSC 750
PSC950 HP PSC 950
PSC950xi HP PSC 950xi
PSC2110 HP PSC 2110
PSC2150 HP PSC 2150
PSC2210 HP PSC 2210
PhSm7150 HP PhotoSmart 7150
PhSm7345 HP PhotoSmart 7345
PhSm7350 HP PhotoSmart 7350
PhSm7550 HP PhotoSmart 7550
PhSmP100 HP PhotoSmart P100
PhSmP130 HP PhotoSmart P130
PhSmP230 HP PhotoSmart P230
PhSmP1000 HP PhotoSmart P1000
PhSmP1100 HP PhotoSmart P1100
PhSmP1115 HP PhotoSmart P1115
PhSmP1215 HP PhotoSmart P1215
PhSmP1218 HP PhotoSmart P1218
PhSmP1315 HP PhotoSmart P1315
e-prtr-e20 HP e-printer e20

The weird thing is that, e.g., I can print with the driver DJ850C provided by default with RiscOS, but when I try the DJ850C provided with Gutenprint, I get the error message ‘File 0000x not found’…

CJE/4D have this printer which apparently needs PCL 3 Enhanced. They also claim RiscOS support.

Your printer supports PCL3 Enhanced according to the document I posted earlier.

Somewhere on ARMini list, someone claims CJE have a PCL3 compliant driver for £25 and a simple test application to check it with your printer beforehand.

Hopefully, someone from CJE/4D will pop by soon and give some help/advise on how to proceed.

I will contact CJE/4D then.

Thank you

François

Thanks James:
Our test file and documentation are available from a link at:
http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/micros/individual/newprodpages/prodinfo.php?prodcode=4D-HP9X0ROD

Hello James & Chris

I find out why it was not working with Gutenprint… I was using drivers from ‘PrinterG’ directory instead of ‘PrinterGp’. Using, from the right folder, drivers like DJ3820 or OJ7110, I have been able to print on my OfficeJet Pro 8610 via USB… But this is awfully slow… It is decently not conveivable to makle any serious work… I printed one PDF page and one OvationPro page, the speed was equally terrible!
So I tried the testfile posted by Chris… and printing was so much faster. So, what could explain such difference? Chris, is your driver different from the one available with Gutenprint? If I buy your driver, can I expect such speed when printing PDF, OvationPro or TechWriter documents?

At least, now, I can print… for the price of 10 cup od coffees ;)

Thank you for your help.

François

what could explain such difference?

Gutenprint is a heavy framework and it’s a port from POSIX based OSes, but I believe CJE tailor made the driver for RO3.5 or later so it’s probably a lot more lightweight.

This is just a guess. I don’t use either drivers on RO.

When I first started using Gutenprint, I found it extremely, unacceptably slow. Eventually I realised that the resolution was far too high for normal use. I reduced it and it now runs at an acceptable speed – though nowhere near instant!

So, what could explain such difference? Chris, is your driver different from the one available with Gutenprint? If I buy your driver, can I expect such speed when printing PDF, OvationPro or TechWriter documents?

With our test printout file all the time to render the page was done when we created it, so no driver can be that fast.
Our driver is like all the other ‘normal’ RISC OS Printer Drivers (Gutenprint and postscript are ‘special’) IIRC where there is a ‘normal’ Printer driver and a Gutenprint version for the same printer then Gutenprint is typically reported to take 6-10 times longer.
TLDR Our driver will be the same sort of speed as ‘normal’ drivers but a lot faster than Gutenprint. Though Gutenprint should do photo’s etc much better than our driver

Regarding the speed of Gutenprint: it depends a lot on the printer to be used. There are large differences both in terms of speed and in terms of memory consumption.

Maybe it is time to recreate the TurboDriver experience :-)

Voilà, I invested in the driver from CJE/4D and it works marvellously well…
Combined with R-Comp ‘Network Printing Software’, I am now able to print over the network from RiscOS.

Speed is fantastic, even in higher quality.

It definitly makes my RaspberryPi under RiscOS a viable solution for home office work and development (BASIC and C).

Wouaw! I am so excited!

Of course, one could argue this is not cheap solution, considering that the softwares (CJE driver + R-Comp NP) needed to make it work is almost as expensive as the printer itself… but passion and pleasure do not care!

Cheers!

François