Epic master trolling
Rick Murray (539) 13850 posts |
So you’re a company making a computer. You have no sensible answers. The journalist covering the “story” mentions this. You decide to reply by saying the journo just made up some rubbish. Said journo was from The Register. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/06/21/atari_interview_in_full/ |
Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts |
ROFL |
Steve Pampling (1551) 8172 posts |
I see from the comments that we are “the rich kids” Truly gob-smacking how much money some people throw at vapourware. |
Rick Murray (539) 13850 posts |
Well, Beebs were very much more expensive than the other offerings. But then we had a computer with a rich selection of I/O ports, with a proper OS full of vectors and service calls, and such ridiculous expandability that nothing really broke a sweat plugging in a foreign co-processor not to mention local area networking when most people had no idea such things existed.
I think it’s more endemic of the amount of bull that people think is real these days. I could point out a certain political landscape as a great example, but even that is trumped by the sheer numbers of people who seem to prefer to believe in a “flat earth” over the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. I guess this is what one should expect from an educational system that gives mythology equal status to science… |
Colin Ferris (399) 1818 posts |
I was surprised that – the Arc and the follow ups – never fitted a User port as standard. Some close up pics of the new motherboards would be nice – to see what ports they have available – and where they are placed. |
David Boddie (1934) 222 posts |
That’s an interesting observation. I wonder if the lack of ports for experimenters was an intentional move towards creating a more business-like machine. I suppose the argument against including them as standard would have been that you could buy a podule with them on if you really needed them. |
Rick Murray (539) 13850 posts |
I second what David said – the Beeb style I/O was available on the biggest podule I’ve ever seen, so those who wanted it could get it. Plus, it helped to keep the profile of the machine cleaner (read: cheaper) as there wasn’t going to be space for all that on the back panel “normally” and unlike the Beeb there was no front side interfacing hiding under the keyboard. Remember also, that this was the same company that created a “cut down” Archimedes costing around £800ish and then didn’t bother to spend that extra fiver to give it a working serial port… |
Colin Ferris (399) 1818 posts |
I know of at least one – who would have liked to do the add-on’s to the User Port shown in the ‘Acorn’ mags. (without the added expense of a backplane /UserPort podule) I think it should have been included – it was something that the ’PC’s’ of the day didn’t have. In the end – it was a case of peeking and poking the Parallel port. [edit 1] [edit 2] ie to make use of ‘Radio Ham’ extension cards made for ’PC’s’. |
Rick Murray (539) 13850 posts |
PRM book 1, around page 150. The chapter called Hardware addresses ?
One of my criticisms of Phoebe – baked in video controller with baked in memory. Riiiight. |
Colin Ferris (399) 1818 posts |
Just fired up !Librarian – ro3-manual – near 1-143 Hmm – have some ro2 paper manual’s around somewhere – don’t know if that info was in them :-) !Librarian is pretty quick – !PDF seems quite slow – and doen’t go direct to the pages you want :-( Is there any relationship between the page number at the bottom of the page – and the goto page? [edit 1] |
nemo (145) 2554 posts |
They didn’t have a 1MHz bus, Tube, Cartridge slots or tape motor relay either. In many ways the BBC Master was the greatest computer ever made and it’s all been downhill from there. MODE2:?&360=255:VDU19;0;0; |
Rick Murray (539) 13850 posts |
Replaced by the podule interface.
Replaced by the podule interface (somewhere in the pile of junk on the other desk is a 386SX podule). They got better by the time the RiscPC came around, though that was really only some Aleph1 epicness sticking a 486 on the ARM bus… Never did see a Z80 co pro for the RiscPC… ;-)
Arguably out of fashion in the world of floppy discs. The entire “ROM” industry barely made it beyond the 6502 machines.
Nor cassette interface. Obsolete technology. I, for one, would not have wanted to load Impression or Ovation from a tape…
That may well be so. |
Steve Pampling (1551) 8172 posts |
and a 586 later, but the bus was designed for two processors and not two identical ones IIRC. |
nemo (145) 2554 posts |
Simtec made the Hydra, which you could populate with another four identical processors. |