The "Take back control" myth

The real blame goes back to Farage pushing his agenda on separation and immigration control, all the while having a German wife.

The real blame goes back to Farage pushing his agenda on separation and immigration control, all the while having a German wife.

Just another in the list of self-interested oiks.
You may consider him to just be hypocritical, but I think you will find the apparent xenophobia to be just a means to an end.
They always say “follow the money” – find out where he stands to gain financially and you’ll likely identify the size of his motive.

makes it easy for someone to justify taking extreme measures

I wasn’t advocating killing him. Just bluntly pointing out the sheer stupidity of him using that sort of language in a topic as utterly divisive as Brexit.

Edit – https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-the-uk/boris-johnsons-brexit-carnage

Apologies if I’m repeating what someone else has already said. However I’ve only just now re-visited the forum for the first time in ages, but…

I’d support the argument that Farage and others actually have a game plan in which ‘Brexit’ is merely a staging point along the path to their later goal. I’ve already had Brexit Party leaflets though my door that move their aim on to “Direct Democracy”. i.e. the path that history shows leads via the “will of the people” to a “Strong Man who knows the will of the people”. …

i.e. quite a nastly familiar route to dictatorship in the name of the “people”.

As Steve says, look to who funds these guys and how they get their wealth, and how they then conceal it dodge taxes, etc. Leaving the EU for them is a way to avoid the EU pulling the wheels off their wagons. Their aim is that the UK become “Switzerland on Sea” with its external helpers like Malta and the BVI to aid international tax dodging, etc.

For details, read PE ad naus.

Just a few minor inconveniences, nothing to worry about…

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/831199/20190802_Latest_Yellowhammer_Planning_assumptions_CDL.pdf

Well if you put the arguement to one side about Remain/Leave and Deal/No deal then look at this on just the basis of planning then it seems to me to be a sensible outline.

With anything this big you need to assess the potential risks however remote , rank those risks and then do a mitigation exercise because as they say “fail to prepare , prepare to fail”.

It is no different say to doing a large scale IT project that the governemnt does all the time……what possibly can go wrong?

It is no different say to doing a large scale IT project that the government does all the time……what possibly can go wrong?

Quick response: government (as opposed to Government).

Slightly more detail: look at the departments or subsections that (try to) dictate what the people at the coalface will have to do. I say “try” because their technical knowledge seems to be lacking¹ and they produce as much techno-fail as the medical equipment suppliers I’ve mentioned before. Institutional stupidity also helps the political stupidity along the way.

¹ It comes to something when you have to provide lead pipe in face level of non-ignorable evidence or spend 9 months telling them to fix a certificate.

look at this on just the basis of planning then it seems to me to be a sensible outline.

Yes, it is a fairly sensible risk assessment.

What is less sensible is to try to bury this (notice the big redaction over the part that mentions the job losses) and plough on forwards with the attitude of “nah, it’ll be alright”.