My First COVID vaccination
Rick Murray (539) 13840 posts |
I noticed who posted it and…didn’t waste my time. My vaccination (Moderna) is booked for “about the 21st”. The local chemist will call me to specify the exact date and time. |
GavinWraith (26) 1563 posts |
I have luckily not experienced Covid so far. I am grateful to all those who are getting their vaccinations. Entertaining conspiracy theories is for the empty-headed and the selfish. As Pindar said: |
Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts |
Conspiracy theorists would be fine. Theories have to fit the facts at least reasonably well, while explaining something that isn’t better explained elsewhere. It’s conspiracy fantasists that get my goat. Don’t flatter them by calling them theorists. |
Colin Ferris (399) 1814 posts |
This Covid seems different – in that if you are exposed multiple times it gets worse – where people in hospitals usually would get a degree of immunity. [Edit] In my humble opinion if you get the chance get the Jab – note all vaccines have a risk. Look at what is written on the various pill packets for a idea of the list of no no’s |
Steve Pampling (1551) 8170 posts |
From comments by clinicians, the whole thing comes down to “viral loading”1. What people are used to, and that includes hospital staff, is a low level exposure to many of the common viruses. New staff tend to have multiple illnesses in the first 6-12 months, and then they are generally OK. SARS-COV-2 is brand new, no one has the low level exposure, so the exposure level required for an active infection is lower. In my case, I’m reasonably certain that an evening shopping trip at a time reserved for NHS staff exposed me to one or more asymptomatic staff. (3 paramedics and a couple of nurses, plus others)
To quote from one news article: Closer to home for me, recent stats have for our locality show no hospitalised Covid sufferers that have had one or more vaccination shots. If that doesn’t convince people, nothing will. 1 Apparently one of our virologists is a leading light in the field. |
Colin Ferris (399) 1814 posts |
The use of masks – (which at the beginning was frowned upon) I Presume that the virus is so small that it has to hitch a lift to travel any distance. So for ordinary peasants crude masks work. |
Rick Murray (539) 13840 posts |
Just had my first hit. He rubbed my arm and I was “oh crap oh crap” and then he said “c’est fait” and I replied “quoi?!”. For non French speakers, he said it’s done and I was like “you what?”. Didn’t feel a thing. What happened afterwards was weird, though. My hands felt cold, and pins and needles. Not the affected arm (had it done in the right as I’m a leftie), both of them. I’m home now, it’s an hour later and my hands are still tingly. I’m not wheezing, wetting myself, throwing up, convulsing, or anything like that. Just tingly hands. Which is kind of weird. Anyway, after sitting quietly for a little while (and buying a charity teddy bear), I decided that what I really wanted was chocolate. So I’m home, sitting in the sun, about to stuff eight sticks (two packs) of Kit Kat into me. ☺ |
Rick Murray (539) 13840 posts |
The virus is so small that it isn’t optically visible. The picture of the spiky thing that you might have seen was done with one of those electron microscope gizmos. And it took a while because it was like finding a needle in a haystack. Human spermatozoa (if you ever looked at that with a microscope) is about 55 microns, most of that being the tail. The female human egg is massive in comparison, about 120 microns. And to really blow your mind, your average modern processor contains about a billion (or so) transistors. In order to fit them all in, processor fabrication sizes have shrunk over the years. Cutting edge silicon is made on a 7nm process. That means they’re capable of mass producing devices where the individual transistors are 0.007 microns in size. |
Rick Murray (539) 13840 posts |
Using a 7mn chip fab, we would need an area of around 25 microns in which to hold the three and a half thousand transistors in the 6502. That correlates to something around about six microns across. So we could easily fit a 6502 onto pollen particles. |
Steve Pampling (1551) 8170 posts |
Under the heading of “Uncommon (may affect up to 1 in 100)” and after the main five items: |
Rick Murray (539) 13840 posts |
Came on almost immediately, so I’d say “kind of yeah”. Thanks for the confirmation. Seems to be settling down. It is not confirmed whether that’s due to large amounts of comfort chocolate. ;) |
Steve Pampling (1551) 8170 posts |
BTW. That was a quote from the AstraZeneca vaccine leaflet
Balanced diet covering all five1 of the food groups is your best bet :) PS. Christine says: “Do your keys stick to you now?” ;) 1 Fat, Fibre, Carbohydrate, Protein and Chocolate |
David J. Ruck (33) 1635 posts |
Get it right; meat, potatoes, chocolate and alcohol. |
Steve Pampling (1551) 8170 posts |
Well, we all knew there had to be more data on the Pfizer & Moderna vaccines, and it seems the info from Israel finally got out So there you go, downsides with those too. The most interesting part is the reference to Israel as a “test tube” and having results that might not fit their PR, Pfizer & Moderna delayed/buried the info. We did cover the risk factors and risk groups stuff earlier as I recall. |
Colin Ferris (399) 1814 posts |
It is interesting that the so called ‘Spanish Flu’ seemed to start in the trenches of WW1 – it seemed to target around 20 year olds. Seeing both sides were playing around with Gas weapons etc !!! Probably effectively finished the War. |
Alan Adams (2486) 1149 posts |
It apparently originated with a farmhand from the mid-west of the USA who volunteered, and was posted to field kitchens in France. From there… |
Rick Murray (539) 13840 posts |
Of course. We’ll find some horrible side effects in the J&J vaccine once it’s been around long enough for dots to be joined.
As I point out in the talkie video that I made (on my blog today), even something as seemingly innocuous as Amoxycillin (often prescribed by dentists) has side effects including seizures. Too much Paracetamol (Acetaminophen in America) causes liver failure. Mild continual overdosing has the same effect, just over a greater period of time and often with non-specific symptoms so it can easily be missed until it’s too late. Too much Vick’s VapoRub especially if put near to the nose (and moreso on children) can cause camphor poisoning. It’s potentially fatal. There is a risk with things like that. It comes down to a decision as to whether you’d rather risk it with the vaccination or the virus. There’s no third option unless you are self-sufficient, living up a mountain, and don’t plan on interacting with other humans (or anything they have touched in the past 3-4 days) at all, ever.
Are you certain this was malicious? Look for how long there was disagreement about whether or not AsZen was responsible for blood clots. When something like this happens, the irresponsible act is to say “Moderna makes your heart blow up!”. It’s better to put this as a “possible maybe” and wait for further data before making a proper correlation. Yes, it may, it seems. This is now a known known, and a rare side effect. Which, like the fact that AsZen is restricted to older people over here, may well affect who the vaccine is best aimed at. This shouldn’t be a surprise, mind you. People are so varied. What I find interesting is that the mRNA shots don’t actually give you the virus itself, they’re the encoding of the spike protein that the virus uses to attach itself (which is why these vaccines are considered effective against the current variations, because while the virus itself might change slightly, the spike protein doesn’t appear to be different). Anyway, I wonder what part of the process has the potential side effect of upsetting the heart. I wonder what the underlying mechanisms are.
The original viral explosion in France last Spring was a big religious gathering. The current problems in India are due to millions doing some sort of religious thing involving bathing in the Ganges. |
Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts |
India’s widespread cultural belief in karma don’t help a bit. Nor does widespread lack of education. Fact is, USA culture, while different, has similar problems, and the UK is heading the same way at breakneck speed. |
Steve Pampling (1551) 8170 posts |
There is no cure for that one. |
Colin Ferris (399) 1814 posts |
American farm hand – I suppose it as good as a Bat pooping on a Paladin! |