My First COVID vaccination

Like anything else it is about confidence but being as open as possible about things/issues but until you have a high level of confidence in your theory it should just be treated as that.

That was what I was hinting at when I mentioned “The cynic in me says the generation of confusion is deliberate.”
Someone(s) wanting to promote an alternate.

As I have said before somewhere in this thread when you have a competitor that is being sold at cost or a fifth of the cost of your product you find any excuse to discredit it in the murky world that we live in.

It matters not one jot about the number of lives saved to some but how much money they will make or lose and that may well be one of the more darker elements playing out here.

Society today has been blighted by many vaccine deniers who would rather believe a online celebrity or peddler of “snake oil” miracle cures than scientists but part of that comes down to in the past companies and governemnts not being open enough.

Well, you pretty much expect that from Americans… it would be a far greater shock if their vaccines were released at cost price.

I wasn’t paying too much attention when watching the RTBF news at the time but I think they mentioned 5$ of benefits per doses for the Pfizer vaccine.

So MHRA say very rare side effect from the available data but more work needed and the risk is extremely small.

The benefits do change with age i.e older people have a greater risk of dying from Covid so the decision by the JCVI to offer alternatives to those younger age groups and those with clotting issues does make sense as it hopefully keeps up the confidence factor for having a Covid 19 vaccination which may save far greater numbers of lives.

The data shown on the UK briefing is really good and I did like the graph showing age/benefits/risks.

JVT and his team do have a nice way of putting things in a simple way though I am waiting for a football reference…

Update..So he has used the liner going across the ocean and minor course corrections required to get there:-)

Had my 2nd Oxford Jab on Thursday, so uneventful I forgot all about it.

Had my 2nd Oxford Jab on Thursday, so uneventful I forgot all about it.

16:40 today¹ – I want a Platinum card and special rights that the Anti-vaxxers can’t have.

¹ I could have been on the NHS fast-track, but having taken months to recover my health I wasn’t keen on visiting the plague house for an early jab.

Phew! That’s good to hear; the first jab, I had shivers, less than six hours after getting it, strange that I didn’t feel cold. After 24 hours of rest, all good. 5G reception has improved! ;D

I want a Platinum card and special rights that the Anti-vaxxers can’t have.

I’ve now got two small unimpressive bits of card, as I forgot to take the first one to the second jab. The nurse said just copy across the details of the other one on each.

and special rights that the Anti-vaxxers can’t have.

Well, you get to not die of stupidity.

I wasn’t keen on visiting the plague house for an early jab.

That’s why I never got tested. I have had none of the posted symptoms, and going near people who think they might have the virus didn’t seem like a smart idea.

I could have been on the NHS fast-track

I might be a priority case (being a cleaner in a food processing factory), but since I’m not 50, I’m still twiddling my thumbs.
The government wants to open up vaccinations to more people “Real Soon Now”. I went to the website of my local vaccination centre, and the first available appointment (pretending to be a regular 50 year old) was the middle of July. If a huge swathe of the public gets added, well, shall I book myself for the 5th of March next year? <sigh>

On the plus side, it’s the Pfizer injection ¹. Interestingly, you need to register specially if your first injection was AZ.

bg. 5G reception has improved!

:-)

¹ I hate the word “jab”.

Well, you get to not die of stupidity.

Up ’til now there was only an optional tax on stupidity (the Lottery) – with vaccination optional there is whole new realm of choice for the stupid.

Well, like Druck I found it was generally nothing.

Slicker entry and queue system (it was pretty good first time).
Greeter away from entrance asking to see booking notification.
Two doors open, greeter at each asking the symptoms questions and sanitising your hands, short queue splitting to 5 of the 7 check-in desks where you get either a yellow or blue plastic slab you hand to the person doing the inoculation (says so on the slab).
There was a new simultaneous yellow queue / blue queue which I think was AZ / Pfizer split.
The 50 or so people in the yellow queue shuffle dutifully¹ forward, spaced at 2 metres, and get questioned before, during and after the event. Wander off to exit.
40 minutes car park to car park.

When does the 5G kick in? The medical staff didn’t know :)

¹ Would this regimented queuing work outside the UK?

On the plus side, it’s the Pfizer injection. Interestingly, you need to register specially if your first injection was AZ.

Probably want to do follow-up checks to see if you speak German with an Oxbridge accent (or write in Latin with umlauts) afterward.

Got my second (AZ) due on Wednesday afternoon. I’m a bit behind my age group as I ended up in self-isolation over the period my first was originally booked for, so I had to rebook both for about three weeks after the original dates.

Had my first one (Moderna) Saturday at the same time as my mother which I had finally managed to convince.
Left home plenty in advance, but underway got blocked on the highway due to accident (with one of the cars on the roof).
Fortunately one circulation band got quickly liberated and I managed to get there just for the appointed time.

There was not much queue so we quickly got an injection and sat down in observation area.
Not 30 seconds afterwards saw a woman being evacuated on a stretcher.
Thought to myself, the accident then that, is someone up there trying to tell us something?
Fortunately the rest of the day was uneventful.

On the plus side, it’s the Pfizer injection. Interestingly, you need to register specially if your first injection was AZ.

Rick, If you’re reading this follow the link and check the side effect profile section (about half-way down).

Might be a reason to steer clear of mRNA versions.

Might be a reason to steer clear of mRNA versions.

Hmm. “Severe allergic reaction, usually in people prone to such reactions” versus “potential blood clot issue (usually in people with blood problems) that if treated in the usual way will actually make the problem worse”, with both being potentially fatal.
The “safe” option is to just avoid vaccination. Safe in quotes because that runs the risk of catching the virus, which could be fatal…..

At least now there are starting to be write-ups directly comparing the available vaccines.

At least now there are starting to be write-ups directly comparing the available vaccines.

Still at a low level of detail and only covering some vaccines. Big Pharma restricting info.¹
I’d need to look back at the previous figures, but the incidence of problems per million seems higher than the much publicised shouted from rooftops figures for AZ. The latter of course has two features which would make certain people express negative opinions:

1. Oxford insisted that AZ put it out at or near cost and allow the IP to be public
2. It’s from the Brexit country, so good Europeans should feel bad about it (this is people lives they are risking just for a tit-for-tat game?)

¹ Also promoting FUD about competitors. It’s politics with a different hat.

…had my first Biontech shot last week, as a side effect just the sometimes usual pain in the arm for a day comparable to other vaccinations in my past.

Interestingly the familiy doctors who are doing it now seem to generally do the second shot for Biontech 3 weeks after, Astra 8 weeks after…whereas the vaccinations centers in Germany would do it 6 weeks / 12 weeks after…my doctor said the shorter gaps are the ones recommended by the manufacturers, in springtime when vaccines were rare the government wanted to get more people their first shot.

I got my TBE injection last week. Still far down the waiting list for the big V though, and my city is the slowest in Sweden. Probably at least a month or two. Given that I spend more time around ticks than people these days, that’s probably all right…

Given that I spend more time around ticks than people these days, that’s probably all right…

I had wondered about the cats bringing such things home, but looking at the packaging for their spot treatment it does ticks as well so probably OK. Plus, I usually end up treating myself at a lower level while doing the furry people.

“Well, you get to not die of stupidity.”

I wouldn’t call someone stupid for refusing an experimental vaccine. No one knows yet if it can cause problems later on down the line. After contracting covid myself earlier this year I’ve decided I won’t be taking the vaccine because it wasn’t even as bad as a cold. Those that are elderly or out of shape should strongly consider it though.

Big Pharma restricting info.

Happened across this:
https://therealslog.com/2021/06/05/revealed-the-shocking-lies-about-covid-vaccine-safety/

The experts don’t seem to know why some peoples immune system hammers them – seems a bit like a version of airborne aid’s!

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I do wonder if the so called ‘Spanish Flu’ didn’t have a lot about ending the First World War.

Or wasn’t the war with Napoleon the real first world war!

(Germans on our side there)

Happened across this

What a load of bollocks he writes. Shouty scary stuff with of course no references to back any of it up.

I hope that neither you nor anyone else in the world believes a word of it.

What a load of bollocks he writes. Shouty scary stuff with of course no references to back any of it up.

Based on similar, loop-referenced stuff on the subjects of Brexit and economics, I tentatively pegged Stuart as either a dupe (possible Q-Anon believer) or a troll.

This item just adds weight to the previous judgement.

After contracting covid myself earlier this year I’ve decided I won’t be taking the vaccine because it wasn’t even as bad as a cold. Those that are elderly or out of shape should strongly consider it though.

You were lucky. Three days bed-ridden and three months of full body muscle pain gradually diminishing were the notable elements of my experience.
The sudden onset of cataract blindness over the course of 10 days may have been connected.

Covid is a full body experience. It is not a cold.

Health wise?
Previous last contact with my GP was 1976 – checkup after “skiing” down a set of icy concrete steps on my bum.
Exercise – nothing formal, but daily walking 1.5 miles and then taking a bus to work, reverse on the way home but if I missed the hourly bus on the home journey I just walked the extra couple of miles or so.