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Rick Murray (539) 13806 posts |
So it’s not “accessible” from the outside, you can’t link to something you’ve said to share with others regardless of whether or not they’re signed up… …you do know what a walled garden is, right? Private place, no public access? I have tried it. The implementation was a lot like IRC, and the software was extremely frustrating, though in their defence it was a fairly early version. The automatic updater was horribly broken. Going from memory, as it was a long time ago, it would blindly delete a load of things and then bomb out complaining about missing resources or somesuch. Thankfully the installation was a regular zip file so some draggy-droppy got back to a working app. But, hey, the number one rule of autoupdating is check what’s there and what you need before deleting anything. |
Dave Higton (1515) 3497 posts |
Sort of, but it appears we have different definitions of “private” and “public” in this context. To me, a walled garden would be one where RISC OS users could only communicate with other RISC OS users. That’s definitely not the case with ChatCube, since Telegram is multi-platform and works in ChatCube. There is the possibility to add more protocols to ChatCube, according to its writers/owners, but I haven’t seen any further development for some time now. |
Chris Mahoney (1684) 2165 posts |
Is there a way to view “native” (i.e. non-Telegram) ChatCube content on, say, an iPhone? Is there a website or API that provides access to this content? Those questions may look passive-aggressive but I legitimately don’t know the answers (although I freely admit that I suspect the answers are “no”). |
Dave Higton (1515) 3497 posts |
No to both. |
Simon Willcocks (1499) 509 posts | |
Dave Higton (1515) 3497 posts |
What features must a client and protocol have in order not to be considered a walled garden? What clients and protocols out there already meet these criteria? Earlier this evening I looked up WhatsApp on Wikipedia. It wasn’t available on all major platforms at first; they were added later. So was the web client. So, if WhatsApp can nowadays be considered not to be a walled garden, it wasn’t always so. But HTTPS access to ChatCube looks like a good idea, if it can be done in a sufficiently secure way. |
Rick Murray (539) 13806 posts |
Some degree of outside access. Like this. https://mastodon.social/@roxiqt/109371562055368175 Obviously it’s not a free for all, you need to be signed up somewhere in order to create content, but the rest of the world doesn’t need to be signed up in order to see it. |
Simon Willcocks (1499) 509 posts |
How did you get the link to work, please? Mine stopped at the @ |
Dave Higton (1515) 3497 posts |
Ah, so your requirement is to make stuff visible to the general public, not just groups and private messages? There’s a Facebook group for the village I live in. Having resisted FB all this time, I signed up a few weeks ago just to see and take part in it. Jeepers, it’s worse than I thought. There is so much dross and advertising in there. I’m not at all sure I’ll keep the account. |
Rick Murray (539) 13806 posts |
How do you mean stopped? Chrome and Firefox (on Android), just clicking the link works. Have you tried copy pasting the link? |
Chris Mahoney (1684) 2165 posts |
I believe the question is around how to create the link without Textile messing it up. Simon: It may require <a href=“url”>title</a> notation. |
Simon Willcocks (1499) 509 posts |
Thanks, Rick, Chris. Chris was right, sorry I wasn’t clear. |
Rick Murray (539) 13806 posts |
Oh, right. Yes, it requires being written as a regular HTML link, not Textile. I do this as a matter of course because Textile chokes on too many things that are parts of URLs these days. |
Paolo Fabio Zaino (28) 1854 posts |
All, Thanks in advance. |
Paul Sprangers (346) 523 posts |
I didn’t even know that one can get notifications. I log on every day, see what’s new, and only click on what might be interesting (everything actually – I love the community). |
Stuart Painting (5389) 712 posts |
I think Paolo may be talking about the RSS feed – the little orange icon below the forum/topic name. That works if you’re interested in just one forum (or just one topic), but AIUI the best granularity you can manage for an “everything except” feed is per-forum (i.e. you can avoid all Aldershot posts by subscribing to every forum except Aldershot). It is theoretically possible for an RSS reader to display “everything in feed A, but excluding everything in feed B” which would do what Paolo wants, but I don’t know of any RSS readers that actually offer that feature. |
Paolo Fabio Zaino (28) 1854 posts |
@ Paul
You can use the RSS feed for that, I am actually using the ROOL forum RSS feed to test one of my DME components (the Desktop Notifications component), but one could use Messenger Pro to digest them or one of the RSS clients.
I am a bit more on the automation side, but indeed I love the community too :) I guess I’ll need to add filtering functionalities to my component, more TODOs then! |
Paolo Fabio Zaino (28) 1854 posts |
@ Stuart
Thanks and thought so, yes in my notifications I am not consuming Aldershot, which works really well. Oh well, the feed comes with the topic, so I can see if I can add filtering for topic title or soemthing like that, again thx! |
John WILLIAMS (8368) 493 posts |
If you use the excellent Sargasso RSS feed reader it now has an Exclude function from the iconbar menu where you can specify stuff you’d prefer not to see! I even think it was me who asked for it during a previous spate of wordy nonsense! Thank you, Chris! Available from here! EDIT: Sorry – via PackMan; that was an earlier version! PS I see that it can now use regular expressions in the exclude criteria, so quite powerful! |
Paolo Fabio Zaino (28) 1854 posts |
@ John
Ha nice, I forgot this was added because of a similar situation, thanks! :) |
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