Iyonix Softload and DHCP

With the increasing use of DHCP, there must be a growing number of users who, like me, are annoyed at boot if a softload ROM is involved.

Why? Because although the softload is in PreDesk, and called !!Softload so it is run early, it is a directory and all obey files in PreDesk are run before the directories. SetUpNet is an obey file which causes DHCP to be started, so gets run first… causing the DHCP delay before the softload is run. Then the DHCP needs setting up again after the softload has run.

A simple solution to this is to create an obey file in PreDesk called !SoftLoad, containing just:

where xx is a left angle bracket, yy is a right angle bracket, and zz are two exclamation marks. Sigh. Took longer to find something that was not swallowed by the bloody forum than to write the post!!

A better solution may be to rename the current !!Softload directory to Softload, and create the new obey file called !!Softload.

Took longer to find something that was not swallowed by the bloody forum than to write the post!!

Try surrounding the contents of the line with @ at either end.

Try surrounding the contents of the line with @ at either end.

Thanks. We really need an idiots guide to posting, as the Textile help is useless IMHO.

the Textile help is useless IMHO.

Somewhat of an exaggeration – but I accept that it could be improved.

I’ve customised my softloader slightly by putting it into Boot:Utils, and modifying the file Boot:Utils.BootRun to include something like:

IfThere BootUtils.Softload.!Run then run Boot.Utils.Softload.!Run

That way the softload happens pretty early in the boot sequence, and you don’t waste any time repeating stuff in the Predesk directory.

@Rik: Yes, that sounds even better. It does avoid the directory repeat. Could this be included in the current Boot sequence changes please? … unless there is an even better suggestion!

Could this be included in the current Boot sequence changes please?

…and here was me thinking I’d only opened a small can of worms…

the Textile help is useless IMHO.

Somewhat of an exaggeration – but I accept that it could be improved.

Martin, have you seen the Textile Reference (under ‘Basics’ in the Wiki help ¹)? It’d probably preferable if that content were to be mirrored on this site too, but it’s probably not really worth it IMHO. What do you think?

¹ I’ve just updated the link, which I’m sure I found published elsewhere on this site just a moment ago.

Trevor: No I had not … but is just a little better than the Textile Quick Reference which is linked to under the Forum Post Reply box. And seems complex, and deals with Wiki not Forum posts. None seem to cover the normal sorts of posting problems: eg why @...@ avoids losing things in brackets; why for multiple such lines it is better to wrap in <code>; why line breaks are not removed by wrapping in <pre>; how to do nested block quoting. And those are just the challenges I have met today!

Reading the forums I can see I am not the only one who has problems!

Sprow: Sorry! Worms breed quickly…

Reading the forums I can see I am not the only one who has problems!

It is even worse when you think you figure something out, but the Textile parser wants things in a specific (apparently undocumented) order. Hmmm…

eg why @...@ avoids losing things in brackets

Eh? That’s just short-hand for <code> isn’t it?
But, then, I need to write <code>@...@&lt;/code&gt; for the at-ellipses-at to work! You’ll notice I have not found a way to handle the closing </code> that it isn’t likely to be interpreted as a real closing tag.

why line breaks are not removed by wrapping in <pre>

Which utterly defies what <pre> is about. But, then, I have noticed that sometimes stuff in <pre> is double-spaced, sometimes (as in my test example) it is not. Then, why do <pre> and <code> and <pre><code> all behave differently, but not necessarily consistantly?

how to do nested block quoting

Um… Can you?

Sprow: Sorry! Worms breed quickly…

Up until now, the only thing that’s been breeding well are slugs. Fingers crossed the sun stays around a while so my soy plants look a little less pathetic.

This is for DHCP, maybe we ought to continue whinging about Textile’s irregularities in the Test forum? ;-)

[ edit: I wrote <pre> (etc) above using angle brackets, not &lt; style… oooh, huge (but not epic) fail; somehow ended up with quote-like sections within quote-like sections and scroll bars all over the place! ]

OT:

closing </code>

There may be a trick that’s been previously used somewhere round here…

Which utterly defies what <pre> is about. But, then, I have noticed that sometimes stuff in <pre> is double-spaced, sometimes (as in my test example) it is not.

IIRC you need blank lines before the <pre>, and after the </pre>.

how to do nested block quoting

Um… Can you?

You’ll have to use HTML for the second and subsequent levels.

You’ll have to use HTML…

Where do the help files show this? We may get a lot more new and confused users soon…

And why could I not copy and paste from the above post for my quote? Works with the post above that! (FFv14.0.1)