RISC OS - Flight Simulators

There has been many titles of Flight Simulators for RISC OS

Birds of War
Chocks Away
Chopper Force
Air Supremacy
Interdictor I
Interdictor II
Mosquito Fire
Spitfire Fury
F18 Hornet
Sunburst
Mig 29

Does anyone know if these are available to download.

Thank you.

There is also Flight Sim Toolkit
http://jaguar.orpheusweb.co.uk/flypage.html

None of the flight simulators you’ve list are currently available to download.

SunBurst is available, but it’s not a flight simulator.

F18 Hornet was never released. Andrew Rawnsley and I did speak about getting the source code over to me several years ago, so I could see if it we could get it into a releasable state, but I don’t believe he managed to find the source code.

Spitfire Fury was never released, although the name was used by a subsequent release, which I think was based on Flight Sim Toolkit.

One you’ve missed is Mig 29M, which was a follow on the Mig 29.

I probably wouldn’t class Air Supremacy as a flight simulator, it’s closer to an arcade game than simulation.

I have the source code of Flight Sim Toolkit (and a bunch of related resources).
But not enough time for now to make something useful with it.

@ David

I have the original Flight Simulator Toolkit for RISC OS (box, discs and manuals) together with the upgrade (released later). I am recovering some of the damaged stuff on the floppies.

It would be really nice if we could 32 bit the sources and also make it work on newer screen resolutions.

If someone have permissions from the original authors can we upload the sources on github? I can quickly create a shared space on there like “RISC OS Community” or something and put people’s accounts as members there to create a developer community (it’s free).

Hi Paolo.

I’ll check, but I think I don’t have the right to publish the source code.
But I have the right to recompile it and enhance it :)

Does someone has a complete working version to share?
I have a bunch of resources to check.

I’ll check, but I think I don’t have the right to publish the source code.
But I have the right to recompile it and enhance it :)

Personally enhance it, or have employees¹ enhance it?

¹ A simple honorary contract should do.

https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?p=938364

I too, now, have the Flight Sim Toolkit source code. Just… not the RISC OS version.

Personally enhance it, or have employees enhance it?

I think both are possible :)

I think both are possible :)

I didn’t use a smiley as it was a totally serious question.
We have quite a few people at the hospital who are on those honorary contracts – it establishes managerial control without requiring remuneration.

That was also a serious (but happy) answer.
The source code can’t be open sourced, but I have the right to use it and enhance it.

The source code can’t be open sourced,

To what, Flight Sim Toolkit?
Simis released the source about twenty years ago. Unfortunately they did not specify any particular licence within the source, and they appear to have blocked archival of simis.com from the WayBack Engine.
But, the source to the PC version is available. See the link I posted above.

I wonder what would be involved in making a fresh port? It looks, from a cursory glance, that there are two main areas to look at. The first is the VGA library, for drawing primitives and pixel plot, plus mucking around with paletted colours. Shouldn’t be too hard to convert this part. The second is a set of DOS functions for the environment. I’ve not looked, but I recall keyboard handling got a bit grotty if you wanted to avoid the BIOS (speed and flexibility).

BTW, I’m not volunteering. It’s spring time. I may well be planting potatoes tomorrow. First time I’ve tried growing them. Got Charlotte and Bintje. Wish me luck. And… I wonder how long until I actually end up having to use that mole trap I got? Hmm. Do wabbits eat spuds? Do deer? Will the cats pull em up for the evulz? Actually, don’t answer that last one, we all know the answer.

Then there’s a ton of mowing, brambles in (many) other places, and never ending stuff to do on the non rainy days. Phew…!

I never really appreciated exactly how much bloody work goes into the whole “oh, that’s a nice looking garden”. Mine isn’t, as I prefer the wild aesthetic (as do the birds), but it would be nearly a full time job…except I already have one of those.

No wonder I’m always 😴.

Simis released the source about twenty years ago.

The source code of the Acorn version was not released.

I remember being very excited about this…
http://acorn-gaming.org.uk/index.php3?p=Previews/F16/index
I wonder what happened to it?

Do wabbits eat spuds? Do deer?

Deer (Muntjac at least) prefer carrots.

Are we talking about Fly the Flight SIM toolkit that Dave Daniels, Adrian Brown and Ron Walker did?

If so would be good to get an up to date version though the RISCOS Fly v3.27 still runs on my Iyonix with 5.28 on it :-)

Updat: I should have read the first page to see it was mentioned as that version.

Still got Su27, Harrierstrike, Jaguar, Phantom, 747 on my Iyonix.

I bought many years ago a flight sim named Face to Face – AFAICR was a WWII flight sim made with FST but with various airplanes – you learn to fly with Tiger Moth, for example.

It’s spring time. I may well be planting potatoes tomorrow. First time I’ve tried growing them. Got Charlotte and Bintje.

Should have said earlier – plant them in something like a bucket¹, as they grow the “earthing up” is just a case of putting in another layer of fine soil/compost.

Harvesting is grab bucket, tip up bucket², pick out potato x many from pile.

Organiser to remind you of the timing of various checks and processes of course.

¹ Containment vessel variants are numerous

Just bumped into this page by accident. Many many years ago I used flight sim toolkit to write ‘Mosquito Fire’ and another sim called ‘1940’. It looks likes someone has archived my geocities(?) page and they are still available for download here:
https://www.oocities.org/timessquare/alley/7523/games/riscos/fst.html
Not sure whether the downloads are OK, I can download and unzip !1940, but Mosquito Fire doesn’t seem to unzip, at least on my Linux box anyway…

They both download and unpack fine on native hardware.

They both download and unpack fine on native hardware

And on emulated hardware (RPCEmu) – that is if you use SparkFS because InfoZip says “This is not a Zip file” which would explain zip file utilities on other platforms not opening the files.

Still, Chris would be wanting to actually do something with them, so an emulator seems like a good start and then perhaps a physical RPi?

mossy.zip isn’t a zip [Edit: just saw Steve’s reply]

Ah thanks, I’d forgotten about SparkFS, it’s been a few years since I last used a RISCOS machine.