ununited codes...

Isn’t it just a matter of invariance?

Yes, which is why I then went on to say…

I’m not sure that Rick’s correct about the logic being the wrong way around, however.

:-)

PS. You probably want bc. or bc.. and not bq. for your code blocks; bq. is really for quoting other people’s witterings.

I’m not sure that Rick’s correct about the logic being the wrong way around, however.

Possibly not. As only a tiny bit of code was provided, I assumed the Phontoms message was what was supposed to be printed with the UTF-8 font.

I printed it out, scanned it in, used OCR on my Iyonix, send the text over the network to my RPi and pasted it.

There have been days in the past, when connectivity between machines was barely known, when I have done stuff not a lot different.
And, hey, people of a certain age will remember when magazines used to carry program listings, which is sort of the maxi-size version of this idea.

because I have no idea what te relation is between:
Did you copy-paste that code or type it out again?

If you are using StrongEd, select the part of your program you want to quote. Press Shift-Ctrl-C. Now come over to NetSurf. Write <pre></pre> on a separate line and then put your cursor in between the two pre tags. Now press Ctrl-V. Magic!

Just like this:

  IF NOT (f% AND 1) THEN
    SYS "Font_EnumerateCharacters", fhdl%, glyph% TO ,, code%
    SYS "XFont_LoseFont", fhdl%
    IF code% <> -1 THEN =TRUE
  ENDIF

p. This is the first line that’s not in the code box…

Oh no it isn’t! (^_^)

When I’m quoting code, I write pre code, then whatever it is to be quoted, followed by /code /pre. I find Textile’s parser to be a PITA and using the bc.. p. method often messed it up. Like, say, your example demonstrates…

Possibly not. As only a tiny bit of code was provided, I assumed the Phontoms message was what was supposed to be printed with the UTF-8 font.

No, it is a message to the user in a message box, provided by “Wimp_ReportError”. In real I use not that message.

If you are using StrongEd, select the part of your program you want to quote. Press Shift-Ctrl-C. Now come over to NetSurf.

In the age of connectivity I use a RPi to play with RISCOS and a Mac for this Forum. Typing is the word.

And, hey, people of a certain age will remember when magazines used to carry program listings, which is sort of the maxi-size version of this idea.

Hours of typing, running before saving, I know what recursion is:-)

p. This is the first line that’s not in the code box…

Oh no it isn’t! (^_^)

Life’s like that.

In the age of connectivity I use a RPi to play with RISCOS and a Mac for this Forum.

In the age of connectivity, the message I wrote yesterday looking for the ‘ne’ kana. It was written on XP. Edited moments later in NetSurf to drop in the program code. Then re-edited again on Windows to add in the ‘ne’ kana as the extended !Chars app won’t send UTF-8 characters when not in UTF-8 mode. I’ve hacked that, but NetSurf won’t receive them, I just see “ã™”, so back to Windows for the ネ…

Oh no it isn’t! (^_^)

It would have been, were it typed normally. The grey box was an example of the Textile markup that would be used, not the result.

The result of typing

bc.. SYS “XFont_FindFont”,,“Homerton.Medium\EUTF8”,192,192 TO fonthandl%;flag%
IF flag% AND 1 THEN

p. This is the first line that's not in the code box...

into a forum post would be

SYS “XFont_FindFont”,,“Homerton.Medium\EUTF8”,192,192 TO fonthandl%;flag%
IF flag% AND 1 THEN

This is the first line that’s not in the code box…

Edit: which, in fact, it is.

PS. You probably want bc. or bc.. and not bq. for your code blocks; bq. is really for quoting other people’s witterings.

Certainly, Steve, you just told me how to do it...

In the age of connectivity, the message I wrote yesterday looking for the ‘ne’ kana. It was written on XP. Edited moments later in NetSurf to drop in the program code. Then re-edited again on Windows to add in the ‘ne’ kana as the extended !Chars app won’t send UTF-8 characters when not in UTF-8 mode. I’ve hacked that, but NetSurf won’t receive them, I just see “ã™”, so back to Windows for the ネ…

Sigh… Where would we be without computers and what would we be doing if we hadn’t any? Looking over the field, thinking of where to start ploughing tomorrow.

Sigh… Where would we be without computers and what would we be doing if we hadn’t any? Looking over the field, thinking of where to start ploughing tomorrow.

…I’d probably be reading a book.

We wouldn’t necessarily be an agricultural civilisation, computers are a fairly recent thing in our realities. Most of us were born just after the introduction of the “computer” (though not in a form we’d recognise), and many of us grew up in the era of the Home Micro, back when they were much simpler devices than we take for granted now, but that meant that one person could write effective software for them, and indeed entire industries were born from that.

Without that? We’d still have analogue TV and radio. We wouldn’t have a million channels and HD, but we’d have a signal when it rains… We’d go to banks and pay in and withdraw money using pieces of paper. There would be no such thing as RBS’s cashpoints are down. Again. Okay, we wouldn’t have plastic, we’d have cash or cheques. But we got on for many decades with nothing more. We’d have libraries full of books instead of computers. Cutting edge would be archive copies of the local newspaper on microfiche.

You know, my mother said many years ago that the huge intrusion of technology into our daily lives will end in disaster. I look at the out of control data slurping and spying (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/12/uk_rules_gchq_hacking_legal/) and I’m wondering if her prophecy isn’t coming true. Technology gives power and power requires responsibility.

So pass me that paperback, please, I’ve not finished it yet…

…I’d probably be reading a book.

I don’t think so. You would have been busy typing your text on a type writer with ten sheets of carbon paper. You would have put each copy in an envelope, adressed to each one in this conversation, put stamps on them, take a walk to a letter box. It would have been a quiet day. The other days of the week your (snail)mail box would be full of letters. It would take you hours to read and answer them in te way described abof. Sh*t, I have to start all over again because of that typo…

But you are right. It seems to me that I had more spare time than I have now.

Do you have a font file that you could send me? My memories of creating Cyberbit was that the software was crashy and the process took forever.

I’ve never “packaged” up a font before, so hopefully this works :)

[Edit: File removed; please use the updated version available on my site].

PS. Font name has not been allocated, this derivative font does not claim to be the trademarked font, blah blah blah :P

We wouldn’t have a million channels and HD, but we’d have a signal when it rains…

Over here, Vodafone offers TV over the same cable used for broadband. My boss switched to it recently and her review consisted of “same as before, but NO RAIN FADE!!!”

I’ve never “packaged” up a font before, so hopefully this works :)

Cheers. Yes, they do look quite nice. Gothic is heavy and bold, sort of like the Japanese equivalent of a Ladybird book text. :-) Mincho is more delicate, but clear. And, yes, I’m looking at the test file in Ovation(1) and both look better than Cyberbit.

Looking in the extended !Chars, I’ve just noticed Cyberbit’s Latin text is quite a bit heavier looking than the kana. The Greek, Cyrillic, etc match the Latin, but not the CJK characters. Was Cyberbit created from two different fonts, I wonder?

Thanks again.