ROS 5.25 kills Hermes

On my Beagleboard-xM, OS 5.25 – Hermes dies on a fetch. ZeroPain is installed. No log is written. Does SecureSockets write to page zero?

You’ll need SecureSockets 1.05, which I don’t think has been formally released yet. R-Comp might give it to you if you ask nicely :)

No rush here but there may be some noise if released after os 1.24.

Manga 0.20, with SecureSockets 1.04, falls into a similar hole. It needs functionality in the ZeroPain module that is not provided by the Compatibity Page. The ZeroPain module 0.07 does not load on OS5.25.

Shamelessly I built a ZeroPain Module that does load on OS5.25.

No rush here but there may be some noise if released after os 1.24.

I was under the impression that the mainstay of R-Comp customers were using machines built with RO5.22 with some use of RO5.23 low vector.¹

Shamelessly I built a ZeroPain Module that does load on OS5.25.

Hey, if it’s needed it’s needed.

¹ iMX6 is, obviously, still going to be on RO5.22 or RO5.23 since no compatible RO5.25 exists and presumably at present ROOL will not be building a RO5.24 for iMX6

The ZeroPain module 0.07 does not load on OS5.25

Oh, that’s what it is. Yet it’s still supplied?

the mainstay of R-Comp customers were using machines built with RO5.22

Huh? Of machines maybe but I’m sure many just have NetFetch or its bits with alternative machines.

Huh? Of machines maybe but I’m sure many just have NetFetch or its bits with alternative machines.

Not information I have, you’d need to speak to R-Comp – that’s where the description of the customer base and their requirements came from.
At a guess I’d say anyone wanting to use software that uses SecureSockets will need to remain on a build lower than RO5.24 until the modified version – v1.05 – is distributed by R-Comp. (Unless they get hold of an unofficial distribution copy)

Belay all that! R-Comp have just released an update on PlingStore.

All functional again including Manga. Does this mean that ZeroPain could be removed?

Does this mean that ZeroPain could be removed?

Yes.

And the release notes for ZeroPain 0.07 and RISC OS 5.24/5.25 state this do they?

I’m not sure which “this” you’re referring to, but the ZeroPain readme was recently updated.

… but is irrelevant because, as direct clicking on the module returns, ‘ZeroPain is not supported by this RISC OS version’.

Summary:
Fred has found a “bug” in ZeroPain in that it appears to be locked to a previous version of RO.
From the Readme the intention was/is for ZeroPain to work – but it doesn’t.
David has some reason to have buggy software not report errors but simply crash and burn. While laudable for the support of high vector compatible software it does limit fault finding a little.

Perhaps ROOL need a little time to complete all the release work? I suspect it is a large amount of work to create, test and release the stable version, and swap things around to enable the website to reflect this – which is presumably their priority. Then as a lower priority to also create a new development version and change the website for that, and then to make any post-release changes that are required. They have not even announced that 5.25 is available for use yet.

Perhaps ROOL need a little time to complete all the release work?

That was rather my point, it’s work in progress (like all the beta releases) and providing pointers to small bugs (or big ones like the first iteration of 5.25) is the name of the game for us users.

Yup. Questions & observations. 5.25 is announced btw, in that it’s now the only beta available for download (for the BBoard at least).

I see that ZeroPain 0.08 is now available and claims to work with 5.25 :)

So who wants to test it then :-)

All good things come to those who wait and those that test and feedback things as Steve says.

Everything coming nicely together ready for Wakefield.

All good things come to those who wait and those that test and feedback things as Steve says

If you’re truly impatient though you could pull the module from CVS instead of waiting for it to appear tomorrow. I’m sure Chris knows how already.