RISC OS Open: Forum: Beta RPi ROM 23-04-2020

Apr 23, 2020 11:00am

Whilst running the 5.27 (23-04-20) build this morning my mouse stopped working. I unplugged it from the USB hub and it started again, but not for long. Eventually both keyboard and mouse stopped working. Both keyboard and mouse refused to work even when removed from the hub and plugged directly into the Pi.

After the subsequent power-off and restart I noticed that the SD Card reader that’s built-in to the hub wasn’t being detected. It works under the 5.27 ROM build 19-Apr-20.

At the time I had Zap, !GCC, Omni, Transient, Director and Netsurf running on my Pi3B.

A debug file was created, but empty.

Apr 23, 2020 11:43am

David Pitt (3386) 1248 posts

There is something a bit weird going on. On my RPi3B+ with today’s, 23-04-20, ROM sometimes at startup it fails to find its SCSI USB SSD Boot drive. *RMReInit USBDriver gets it back. The USB keyboard and mouse were present however. No such problem with the previous ROM of 03-04-20.

Briefly tested, the problem “goes away” if the new WindowScroll module is unplugged.

Apr 23, 2020 5:21pm

Jeffrey Lee (213) 6048 posts

Briefly tested, the problem “goes away” if the new WindowScroll module is unplugged.

Although I’m open to the idea of it being a bug in the WindowScroll module (and it’d probably mean it’s easier to fix!), it wouldn’t surprise me if some of these problems are related to the unusual behaviour Frederick encountered a few months ago.

https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/5/topics/14711

Apr 23, 2020 6:08pm

Doug Webb (190) 1180 posts

Plus I see mentions about the latest ROM being installed but no confirmation that the latest HardDisc image has as well as it seems to add some configuration settings and I did install that and crucially also used the “Set” button even though I didn’t change anything just to be sure.

It did result in the Wireless Mouse/Keyboard freezing at that stage but cured by unplugging and plugging back in and has been OK since.

Apr 23, 2020 7:23pm

David Pitt (3386) 1248 posts

Although I’m open to the idea of it being a bug in the WindowScroll module … it wouldn’t surprise me if some of these problems are related to the unusual behaviour Frederick encountered a few months ago.

Once the RPi3B+ has been coaxed into a full startup with RMReInit USBDriver after an initial failure to find its boot disc I did notice some erratic keyboard output. I got rid of the wireless keyboard and mouse pair and the start up fault vanished. It has stayed vanished with a wired keyboard and mouse.

!Boot does not play any part in this here as it fails even to find the boot drive never mind run anything on it.

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Apr 23, 2020 11:00am Andrew McCarthy (3688) 605 posts	Whilst running the 5.27 (23-04-20) build this morning my mouse stopped working. I unplugged it from the USB hub and it started again, but not for long. Eventually both keyboard and mouse stopped working. Both keyboard and mouse refused to work even when removed from the hub and plugged directly into the Pi. After the subsequent power-off and restart I noticed that the SD Card reader that’s built-in to the hub wasn’t being detected. It works under the 5.27 ROM build 19-Apr-20. At the time I had Zap, !GCC, Omni, Transient, Director and Netsurf running on my Pi3B. A debug file was created, but empty.

Apr 23, 2020 11:43am David Pitt (3386) 1248 posts	There is something a bit weird going on. On my RPi3B+ with today’s, 23-04-20, ROM sometimes at startup it fails to find its SCSI USB SSD Boot drive. `*RMReInit USBDriver` gets it back. The USB keyboard and mouse were present however. No such problem with the previous ROM of 03-04-20. Briefly tested, the problem “goes away” if the new WindowScroll module is unplugged.

Apr 23, 2020 5:21pm Jeffrey Lee (213) 6048 posts	Briefly tested, the problem “goes away” if the new WindowScroll module is unplugged. Although I’m open to the idea of it being a bug in the WindowScroll module (and it’d probably mean it’s easier to fix!), it wouldn’t surprise me if some of these problems are related to the unusual behaviour Frederick encountered a few months ago. https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/5/topics/14711

Apr 23, 2020 6:08pm Doug Webb (190) 1180 posts	Plus I see mentions about the latest ROM being installed but no confirmation that the latest HardDisc image has as well as it seems to add some configuration settings and I did install that and crucially also used the “Set” button even though I didn’t change anything just to be sure. It did result in the Wireless Mouse/Keyboard freezing at that stage but cured by unplugging and plugging back in and has been OK since.

Apr 23, 2020 7:23pm David Pitt (3386) 1248 posts	Although I’m open to the idea of it being a bug in the WindowScroll module … it wouldn’t surprise me if some of these problems are related to the unusual behaviour Frederick encountered a few months ago. Once the RPi3B+ has been coaxed into a full startup with `RMReInit USBDriver` after an initial failure to find its boot disc I did notice some erratic keyboard output. I got rid of the wireless keyboard and mouse pair and the start up fault vanished. It has stayed vanished with a wired keyboard and mouse. !Boot does not play any part in this here as it fails even to find the boot drive never mind run anything on it.