Filer Bug

On my Iyonix, running RISC OS 5.16 (18 Jan 2010) [and LanManFS 2.34 (1 Aug 2009) if that is relevant] I can make a file disappear from the filer window by renaming another file.

If I rename ‘aGWDiagrams/pdf’ to remove the leading ‘a’ (and then refresh – well rename the parent directory from ‘html’ to ‘html’ which has the same effect) then the file ‘GWDiagramsTest/htm’ disappears. Puzzled.

The file is still there (Windows can see it).

I get this error as well, it seems to effect files & directories.
All my files are stored on a NAS and are accessed by a bunch of Windows (xp) , RiscPc, Iyonix’s, and Pi’s. The windows machines and RiscPc (using LanMan98) see all the files, but the Pi’s and Iyonix’s using Omniclient sometimes does not see all the files/directories. With the Iyonix’s the problem/bug seemed to appear with RISC OS 5.16 onwards. Funny enough if you do a ‘Filer Find’ it spots the missing files and also if you copy all of the files onto the computers ‘adfs’ file system the missing files appear, so it knows the files are there but it does not display them in the Filer Window.

The problem is either the Omniclient or Lan Manager module, my guess/deduction is that its the Lan Manger module.

I’m puzzled as well, and I am trying to see if I can replicate the problem to give a bug hunter a chance to track it down.

I get this error too.

I noticed that by new VDSL box allowed to connect an USB drive and share it, so I gave it a try and downloaded the nightly build of HardDisc4 to try to use a recent version of OmniClient & LanManFS on my old RISC OS 6 RiscPC.

It seems to work fine except that one directory is supposed to contain 68 BUCK-TICK albums and singles in the form of sub-directories but only 50 are listed. And just as Jeff mentions using the filer’s “Find” allows to find and open the missing directories.

If I’ve understood correctly, all of you are seeing this on LanManFS shares.

If you copy the files to a local folder, do you see the same effect?

It may be specific to LanManFS in some way.

You are correct, problem only appears on LanManFS, and if you copy the files to a local folder then the missing files appear (if my memory is correct!).

I got LanMan98 for the Pi and the problem is no more.

Well, I have the same folder on my local hard disk where all the sub-folders are visible, I was just looking for a FLAC file to see if DigitalCD could play it without problem over the network when I first noticed that the last albums where not present before noticing other missing albums in the list. So indeed it seems specific to LanManFS.

If I copy from my laptop one of the invisible folder to another folder on the share, I have no problem seeing it, so its not the filename which is a problem. It also is not a question of filename similarities like in Chris’ case, thought I must say that due to the formatting “[YYYY-MM-DD] ” that I use most of the invisible folders have at least 6 characters in common with other folders.

More curious, if I add a file to the problematic folder, some but not all of the missing folders become visible. If I remove the file, they are hidden again.

Bump! This bug is still not fixed in LanManFS 2.53 17-Mar-2016. This makes LanManFS unusable for me – a shame since it can now access NAS that it couldn’t before.

Chris, try the update that Colin posted on the other thread about this.

So far with me I can find no problems

To save a lot of searching :-
https://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/11/topics/4063?page=1#posts-51691
is the other thread.

By curiousity I donloaded the latest LanManFS version (2.54 03-Apr-2016) and used it on my RISC PC (OS 6).
Here is my Buck-Tick albums folder with -,+,= prefixes to mark entries which where not listed with *cat, in the filer or neither with *cat nor in the filer:

[1986-10-21] To Search - Plastic Syndrome (Single)
[1987-04-21] Hurry Up Mode (Indies album)
[1987-11-21] Sexual XXXXX!
[1988-03-21] Romanesque (EP)
[1988-06-21] Seventh Heaven
-[1988-10-26] Just One More Kiss (Single)
-[1989-01-18] Taboo
[1990-01-24] Aku no Hana (Single)
[1990-02-01] Aku no Hana
[1990-02-08] Hurry Up Mode (1990 Mix)
[1990-07-21] Symphonic Buck-Tick in Berlin
[1991-01-21] Speed (Single)
-[1991-02-21] Kurutta Taiyou
+[1991-06-05] M·A·D (Single)
-[1991-10-30] Jupiter (Single)
[1992-03-21] Koroshi no Shirabe This Is NOT Greatest Hits
[1993-05-21] Dress (Single)
[1993-06-23] Darker Than Darkness -Style 93-
[1993-10-21] Die (Single)
=[1994-08-24] Shapeless (+photoalbum)
=[1995-03-24] Uta (Single)
=[1995-04-21] Koudou (Single)
+[1995-05-15] Six-Nine
+[1995-09-21] Mienai Mono wo Miyou to Suru Gokai Subete Gokai da (Single)
+[1995-12-01] Catalogue 1987-1995
+[1996-05-22] Candy (Single)
+[1996-06-21] Cosmos
+[1997-11-12] Heroin (Single)
-[1997-12-10] Sexy Stream Liner
-[1998-03-11] LTD (LP)
[1998-03-11] Sasayaki (Single)
[1998-05-13] Gessekai (Single)
[1999-03-20] BT (Singles)
[1999-07-14] Bran-New Lover (Single)
[1999-10-20] Miu (Single)
-[2000-03-29] 97BT99
-[2000-09-06] Glamorous (Single)
[2000-09-20] One Life, One Death
[2001-11-21] 21st Cherry Boy (Single)
[2001-12-19] Super Value Buck-Tick
[2002-02-06] Kyokutou I Love You
+[2002-02-20] Kyokutou Yori ai wo Komete (Single)
[2003-01-18] Zangai (Single)
-[2003-02-13] Mona Lisa Overdrive
-[2003-12-03] Gensou no Hana (Single)
[2005-03-02] Romance (Single)
[2005-04-06] 13kai wa Gekkou
+[2005-04-20] Trinity Blood - Dress (Bloody Trinity Mix) (Single)
+[2005-12-07] Catalogue 2005
=[2006-08-02] Kagerou (Single)
=[2007-06-06] Rendezvous (Single)
=[2007-08-08] Alice in Wonder Underground (Single)
[2007-09-19] Tenshi no Revolver
[2008-12-17] Heaven (Single)
-[2009-01-14] Galaxy (Single)
-[2009-02-18] Memento mori
[2010-02-27] Dokudanjou Beauty (Single)
[2010-09-01] Kuchizuke (Single)
[2010-09-01] Kuchizuke (Single) [Limited Pressing]
[2010-09-13] Razzle Dazzle
-[2012-03-07] Catalogue  Victor-Mercury 87-99
-[2012-03-07] Catalogue Ariola 00-10
-[2012-05-23] Elise no Tame ni (Single)
[2012-07-04] Miss Take ~ Boku wa Miss Take ~ (Single)
[2012-09-19] Yume Miru Uchuu
[2014-01-22] Lovers Parade -Steppers Parade- (Single)
[2014-05-14] Keijijou Ryuusei (Single)
-[2014-06-04] Arui wa Anarchy

Note that *cat gives an unsorted list and that a few items where listed in the same order.

Does this version fix it? LanmanTest.zip

The version in LanmanTest.zip fails to connect to the share, this is why I tested the official 2.54 version which is supposed to contain the fix.

Hmmm…

2.54 doesn’t contain the fix for missing files.

I’ve added the fix to last nights LanManFS – I can’t see that it would make a difference and my change wouldn’t affect logging on. Lanmantest.zip

That version is a little bit better. I can logging and the filer display is correct but a *cat on the same folder gives me an “Unable to perform operation” error and trying load a few files quickly gives me aborts and other problems, so I think maybe your build is not compiled with RISC PC compatible options.

Ok try it again. I’ve recompiled it with a ‘discs’ environment. The original was compiled with an ‘TungstenDev’ environment.

The ‘disc’ compiled version is working correctly.