Cmos widget

How do you find !Configure from the task switcher menu to use Save CMOS as the instructions say? I am not sure where the task switcher menu is!

It’s the cog icon thing on the right (where the Acorn used to be) of the iconbar.

If you left click on it the task switcher should open a big screen with all your memory use, and if you middle mouse click on the cog it’ll open a menu from which you can select “Configure…”.

Got it. But you have to middle click somewhere in the configure screen where all the ikons are. There is no ikon for cmos.

Lynn, as a member of the BBSS you’re welcome to use our CMOS updater proggy (included with widgets bought from us) – drop me an email. You were also entitled to our lower-priced widgets which come with printed instructions and the software.

Got it. But you have to middle click somewhere in the configure screen where all the ikons are. There is no ikon for cmos.

Click the middle mouse button in the window and select “Save CMOS”.

If you’re new to RISC OS, remember that it makes heavier use of context menus than many other operating systems, so it’s always wise to try the middle button before you write a feature off as inaccessible.

Ehm, why should I use a CMOS updater app? I thought the whole point of having the CMOS widget was to enable use of the normal menu-save setting action in “Configure”.
If this could be the cause for my problems after updating to OS4, please let me know!

If you’ve got the widget you don’t need to save CMOS or use an updater app. I guess the latter is to set up the filing system on the first start up after fitting the widget, which initially would be blank??

I guess the latter is to set up the filing system on the first start up after fitting the widget, which initially would be blank??

Indeed, the Kernel’s default values are enough for the majority of people to get to the desktop with, only if you’ve got some unusual (manually set) settings do you need to bother doing an export→reboot→import on first installing.

I was under the impression Lynn needed assistance migrating CMOS over to the widget. Our program saves cmos prior to fitting and writes it to the widget afterwards. If this isn’t what was being asked, please forgive me, and blame it on pre-show fatigue!

If I don’t need to use an app or go via configure, how does the CMOS widget detect any changes? Since !territory doesn’t work I’ve got to manually change the time. *configure timezone +2 corrects GMT to MESZ but isn’t saved after re-booting.

I was under the impression Lynn needed assistance migrating CMOS over to the widget.

Dunno – the original question could be interpreted either way now I look at it again.

If Lynn wanted to migrate some custom settings then either your program (via your support scheme) or !Configure would be required on first boot after installing (and not thereafter).

If Lynn was just following the instructions, but actually has “vanilla” defaults, then it doesn’t do any harm to export→reboot→import, but equally the Kernel will bung the defaults into an empty CMOS for you to save the effort.

If I don’t need to use an app or go via configure, how does the CMOS widget detect any changes?

IIRC changes made using *Configure (as shown by *Status) or set with the Configure option from the Switcher are saved to CMOS as a matter of course. With *Configure it’s implicit, with the configuration window clicking ‘Set’ in each option is equivalent to ‘save’. I assume it should be the same for territory but being in the UK I’ve never tried it.

If Lynn was just following the instructions, but actually has “vanilla” defaults, then it doesn’t do any harm to export→reboot→import, but equally the Kernel will bung the defaults into an empty CMOS for you to save the effort.

I think the thread title probably gives it away :-)

The only problem I had when installing the widget was I was trying to boot from disc 4 whereas disc 0 was expected. Easy to get around.