RISC OS Open: Forum: Zap unstable

Mar 20, 2018 8:47am

I am spending 10h/day now with my RK3288 port. I have always used Zap as my editor. However, my system has crashed at least two times / day.
I have started to think that Zap is the problem, so I switched to Stronged.

No crashes this far.

I wonder if it is possible to make Stronged to have TAB working the same as in Zap? (in ObjAsm files)

Mar 20, 2018 2:56pm

Fred Graute (114) 645 posts

It seems Zap inserts an actual TAB character (0×09). To make StrongED do the same:

Open a text in ObjAsm mode
Right click on the ‘tick’ icon on the toolbar
Go to the Tabs section
Set Insert tabs to: ‘As TAB character (aka TrueTab)’
Click on Save to make the change permanent

When done TAB in StrongED’s ObjAsm mode should work the same as in Zap.

Mar 20, 2018 3:31pm

Rick Murray (539) 13840 posts

I have started to think that Zap is the problem,

Zap should crash itself, or maybe stuff using ZapRedraw, but it shouldn’t make the entire system crashy. It’s always loaded on my ARMv7 Pi2.

No crashes this far.

Any pointers to where/what is crashing in Zap?

Mar 21, 2018 8:28am

Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts

Zap should crash itself

This is my experience. Certain files crash Zap if the contents of the file don’t match the filetype. But I too always have Zap loaded on my Pi (3B) and the system has been up continuously for almost a year now. Not a single crash. (I took the system down myself a few times when I first got the 3B, in the process of getting the 4K display working. But since I got that up and running, it’s been up non-stop.)

Mar 21, 2018 1:48pm

nemo (145) 2546 posts

Zap is one of the main reasons I still use RO. Love Zap.

Mar 21, 2018 2:32pm

Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts

Snap. Zap & Draw.

Mar 21, 2018 2:45pm

Rick Murray (539) 13840 posts

& Draw

If you like Draw, have you tried OpenVector? It’s like DrawPlus plus plus. ;-)

Mar 21, 2018 2:52pm

Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts

Nope. Am investigating as soon as I’ve written this.

Mar 21, 2018 2:53pm

Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts

Not this I presume? http://openvector.co.uk/

Mar 21, 2018 3:13pm

Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts

http://www.users.on.net/~belles/software/openvector/ sorry – you pointed me at this before & I’ve not looked yet…

Mar 22, 2018 6:31pm

Michael Grunditz (467) 531 posts

My system has been up for a few days now without any problems. I have more than 20 files open at the same time. Stronged has no problem with that, but Zap failed on me.

Mar 23, 2018 11:39am

Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts

It’s quite true that I don’t think I’ve ever had 20 files open at once in Zap. But the only thing that’s caused Zap to fail for me was file contents not matching filetype. Same files open no problem with type set to Data. And while Zap has crashed for me quite a few times (with a corrupt BASIC file, for example) it’s never crashed the machine.

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Mar 20, 2018 8:47am Michael Grunditz (467) 531 posts	I am spending 10h/day now with my RK3288 port. I have always used Zap as my editor. However, my system has crashed at least two times / day. I have started to think that Zap is the problem, so I switched to Stronged. No crashes this far. I wonder if it is possible to make Stronged to have TAB working the same as in Zap? (in ObjAsm files)

Mar 20, 2018 2:56pm Fred Graute (114) 645 posts	It seems Zap inserts an actual TAB character (0×09). To make StrongED do the same: Open a text in ObjAsm mode Right click on the ‘tick’ icon on the toolbar Go to the Tabs section Set Insert tabs to: ‘As TAB character (aka TrueTab)’ Click on Save to make the change permanent When done TAB in StrongED’s ObjAsm mode should work the same as in Zap.

Mar 20, 2018 3:31pm Rick Murray (539) 13840 posts	I have started to think that Zap is the problem, Zap should crash itself, or maybe stuff using ZapRedraw, but it shouldn’t make the entire system crashy. It’s always loaded on my ARMv7 Pi2. No crashes this far. Any pointers to where/what is crashing in Zap?

Mar 21, 2018 8:28am Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts	Zap should crash itself This is my experience. Certain files crash Zap if the contents of the file don’t match the filetype. But I too always have Zap loaded on my Pi (3B) and the system has been up continuously for almost a year now. Not a single crash. (I took the system down myself a few times when I first got the 3B, in the process of getting the 4K display working. But since I got that up and running, it’s been up non-stop.)

Mar 21, 2018 1:48pm nemo (145) 2546 posts	Zap is one of the main reasons I still use RO. Love Zap.

Mar 21, 2018 2:32pm Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts	Snap. Zap & Draw.

Mar 21, 2018 2:45pm Rick Murray (539) 13840 posts	& Draw If you like Draw, have you tried OpenVector? It’s like DrawPlus plus plus. ;-)

Mar 21, 2018 2:52pm Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts	Nope. Am investigating as soon as I’ve written this.

Mar 21, 2018 2:53pm Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts	Not this I presume? http://openvector.co.uk/

Mar 21, 2018 3:13pm Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts	http://www.users.on.net/~belles/software/openvector/ sorry – you pointed me at this before & I’ve not looked yet…

Mar 22, 2018 6:31pm Michael Grunditz (467) 531 posts	My system has been up for a few days now without any problems. I have more than 20 files open at the same time. Stronged has no problem with that, but Zap failed on me.

Mar 23, 2018 11:39am Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts	It’s quite true that I don’t think I’ve ever had 20 files open at once in Zap. But the only thing that’s caused Zap to fail for me was file contents not matching filetype. Same files open no problem with type set to Data. And while Zap has crashed for me quite a few times (with a corrupt BASIC file, for example) it’s never crashed the machine.