RISK4ALL

This is the objective constructive place to discuss the implementation and development, however ambitious to anyone, of a new 64-bit Risc Operating System based on the ARM64/AARCH64 architecture used in processors like Rockchip and Broadcom found on Rock Pi and Raspberry Pi small factor boards respectively, among others. Liftoff from hereon and moreso envisioned and welcomed during 2019 and onwards.

This project puts the KISS (keep it simply and silly, in preference to “stupid”, our own version) principle into practice effectively, and in exceptional minimal context, by keeping power and size down, while enjoying modern fast speeds and flexible diverse upgradeable storage options , whether gigabyte ethernet or USB3 on-board essentially, for starters.

Ideal chosen all the way, and nothing less, rather do nothing than settle for inadequate. The concept entails a board capable to be internally developed and built up to produce this new venture OS called RISC4ALL as an all-embracing platform for coding everything on, PLUS serving as a superb user computer for any programs available at the time or contributable by enthusiasts and anyone else.

The other relevant subject under General here, namely ARM64, giving rise and impetus to ongoing progress here, continues to serve for discussions and ideas and chatting and interacting and, hell, even bantering around our perspectives freely relating to our opinions and common interest. As a permanent yardstick and guide, no matter how far-fetched any claim is made, rather provide a solution or improvement than blunt criticism alone, amounting to pointlessness and waste-of-time negativity and regression of progress.

Am resident in South Africa, so pricing for technology dependant on our exchange rate with pound or dollar, and for those in the UK, availablility likely easier than for distant Africa, where life is improving magically with a strong consistent President leader at last, for getting back on track to first world status

The Rock Pi 4A is on internet for $39 according to cnx-software.com, an excellent value considering all it`s features are acceptable, with choice of A and B models, the latter simply incl wifi and former not. No supply here, yet find one distributor looking into importing. Ideal to begin exploring, for coding info. first.

OK, so getting a quote for 1 or maybe 2 Rock Pi 4A`s w/4GB DDR4, from a local SA importer, to begin playing with and exploring, Will arrive here in the new year if successful. Seems like there`s a few default OS options, according to a site specs I`ve found for the Pine A64 with compatible components onboard, at least. Can see at: www.cyberconnect.co.za/RockPi4_SBC

Just got a good 6th sense about this technology and offering, to knock socks off, as an introduction to ARM64/AARCH64, while prefer the Rockchip RK3399 to the Raspberry Pi Broadcom (2837), on paper at any rate. Steep fun learning curve ahead. List of possible os choices, see: wiki.pine64.org/index.php/Pine_A64_Software_Release (excuse if not instantly linkable)

Rockchip Pi 4 installs with Android and Ubuntu/Debian, Be great to find a bootable UBCD Linux for ARM, to access a second drive with while playing with hex/binary bootup code. Can look at: https://wiki/radxa.com/RockPi4 for an interstingly informative introduction. Am busy importing mine to SA.

After acquiring my first Raspberry yesterday, an early sightly used Pi 1 B+, had my first encounter with Risc OS, and it is beautiful, with lots of info and connectivity (working browser for the net) and programs, so, great stuff, a pleasure to have and hold, ha ha.

So now here is a a basic platform to develop an ARM64 Risc OS both on and for the 64-bit models, with options to either port on the one hand, or my absolute preference, reinvention on the other, for which my strong clear reason is that doing ideal demands and inspires a new fresh modern mindset…..

……that translates into everything easy, convenient, instinctive, pre-empting, automatic, and comprehensive for both intellect and entertainment, starting deductively from the big picture right down to all the details to create.

I’m not sure if you understand just how much work this idea requires.

To Patrick M: Honestly, I don`t, yet can imagine, and am simply so focussed on learning by doing that I`m just thinking of enjoying getting somewhere worthwhile, without keeping count of a single thing. Any progress is valuable and matters much.

As far as my introductioon to Risc OS on my first Raspberry goes, love it. My first two preferences, i.e. 1. streaming Youtube videos, and 2. watching dvd or downloaded movies, doesn`t seem to be instantly catered for, but don`t care since not stuck for temporary alternative options to play and view, cos..

…been an avid x86_64/AMD64 collector of both pcs and servers for a number of years, and just about every operating system existing or released, including early and obscure unixes, probably every Windows OS ever produced since DOS 1.0, original Minix for the Intel 80286 cpu by Tanenbaum I tested, and ….

….Solarises for my two Sun Fire T2000 colour graphics sparc machines I imported the boards for, to SA where I live and grew up in, all as a build up to having an adequate development system, with a separate 8-machine AMD network, plus an internal internet based on the full international IP address range that works, and now a newly evolving ARM64 small dev lan as well.

So that`s just how crazy I am as a hobbyist with champagne test on beer money, ha ha. Also, I`m contacting this site here through RaspRisc as a first too, brilliant and exciting.

So that`s just how crazy I am as a hobbyist with champagne test on beer money, ha ha. Also, I`m contacting this site here through RaspRisc as a first too, brilliant and exciting.

So that’ll be wanker, then? With poor punctuation!

Sigh.

So that’ll be wanker, then? With poor punctuation!

I can understand getting frustrated with this person, but please let’s not resort to insults like that. Something I really like about this forum is that people here are mostly very civil, much more so than mostly everywhere else on the internet. I think this is actually the first time I’ve seen someone here talk to another person like that.

To John W: To clarify using this topic to boast about personal non-Risc equipment and setups, is coming from a growing alternative perspective, as an option, of taking a whole lot of other technology, i.e. non-ARM, like anyone else as myself might have access to, along with another software platform besides Risc OS,…..

….and creating a massive simulator for a whole complete new comprehensive expanded 64-bit Risc OS using these other fun advanced graphical IDE programming tools, and have the best of all worlds, especially since these “some others” are well established and further evolved, Just an epiphany, and am continuing as the norm to explore this unique RO OS, with that divergence exceptional.

I can understand getting frustrated with this person, but please let’s not resort to insults like that.

I apologise if I offended you with my shorthand, but at this time was searching for motivation for these ramblings, and could only come up with self-gratification. Perhaps I should have used “onanist”.

with my shorthand

It wasn’t shorthand, John, it was a direct and rude insult.

Perhaps I should have used “onanist”.

…which is a posh way of saying the same thing.

Let me try to put this tactfully:

PERHAPS YOU SHOULD SIMPLY APOLOGISE.

@JohnW: It is so easy to give offence unintentionally, in emails or comments, because the context that physical presence affords is missing. To my chagrin, I have given offence myself once or twice.

@JohnF: You are a bit of a conundrum to me. As I have said before, what you write is very pleonastic, and this is wordcraft that I have not seen before online, never mind the content of the words. As has been remarked, at times you sound like a person and at others like the output of a program. If you are a person, I wish you well. If you are not I do not want to be considered a sucker.

Enjoyment of and enthusiasm for a topic like RISC OS, or this or that piece of hardware or software, is a human trait that we can all relate to. Very often we enjoy things when they are new to us. It is a mysterious feature of the human mind and possibly deserves more study than it receives, especially by ergonomists.

JohnW has a good point. I am curious to know the motivations for JohnF’s contributions. They are hard to read and appear to be contrived. Perhaps I am expecting too much; am I being impertinent in wondering whether JohnF can satisfy our curiosity in simple terms?