Raspberry Pi 400
Holger Palmroth (487) 115 posts |
New computer from the Raspberry Pi foundation. RasPi 4 in a keyboard case. New motherboard, also new keyboard connector, so it might not work for RISC OS out of the box. |
Chris Mahoney (1684) 2165 posts |
Of course this comes out ~a week after I finally bought a Pi 4… |
Stuart Painting (5389) 714 posts |
I hope to find out in a day or two: I’ve just ordered one. |
Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts |
The other relevant question is… Emma Chizzit? Ah. Just got the email. £94. Gotta wait for that lottery win, I think. |
Dominic Plunkett (2556) 34 posts |
$70 if you don’t want the kit ie. no PSU, mouse, sdcard, hdmi cable and book |
James Pankhurst (8374) 126 posts |
£94 for the “complete kit”, £67 for just the keyboard part. Difference being PSU, mouse, HDMI cable, 16gb SD card and beginners guide. |
Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts |
That’s still lottery win territory for an impecunious pensioner, sadly. But considering it’s got a 4GB Pi4 in it, effectively, not a bad price at all. Massive heatsink in the keyboard a very good idea. Tempting. |
Norman Lawrence (3005) 172 posts |
Interesting to see that it is clocked at 1.8 GHz. |
Dominic Plunkett (2556) 34 posts |
And it runs cool due to a heatsink : https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/raspberry-pi-400-review-faster-cpu-new-layout-better-thermals |
Bryan (8467) 468 posts |
Not convinced. It just moves all the wires from a nice fan cooled Ras Pi 4 (fastened, out of site, to back of monitor) to the keyboard. A keyboard with I look forward to somebody posting how hot it gets with RISC OS which I think runs hotter than Raspberry Pi OS. |
Lothar (3292) 134 posts |
> it might not work for RISC OS out of the box This seems to have different Ethernet chip |
Dominic Plunkett (2556) 34 posts |
Same ethernet phy as the Pi4B |
Rick Murray (539) 13850 posts |
Well, it’s basically a 2020 Speccy, isn’t it? |
Bryan (8467) 468 posts |
Add a 40 pin ribbon cable if you want to add a HAT HAT??? We need a new acronym for Hardware dangling on the end of a 40 Pin GPIO Male to Female Ribbon Cable – 150mm |
Paolo Fabio Zaino (28) 1882 posts |
…and this is how “the age of the A3010/A3020” came back! :D I already like it! Sorry :D |
Paolo Fabio Zaino (28) 1882 posts |
@ Rick
Shame on you mate, Speccy really???? it’s an A3010!!! :D Joking, but yes that’s what a lot of kids may really enjoy. Now we need to get back at making demos for the 400, games and trackers! Oh and obviously Copiers too ]:D |
Steve Pampling (1551) 8172 posts |
Well, if you take that with Rick’s comment
You could travel the wobbly RAM pack route. |
Steve Pampling (1551) 8172 posts |
A keyboard with You missed a mention of the Wireless, so you don’t need to use the network cable. Buy it minus the “kit” (PSU, mouse and cables) and plug in your own PSU and a wireless mouse1, HDMI cable to a display (or two if your OS supports it). At the end of the day it’s a ready built, “plug and play” solution for schools which will of course sell many, many more units to retro-gamers and techno-geeks. 1 If it’s a keyboard/mouse combo then the Pi400 can sit with the display/TV. |
Clive Semmens (2335) 3276 posts |
Not sure I do belong in either of those groups. Maybe just about in the techno-geek group, but only just. If it runs RISCOS having it built into a keyboard would reduce clutter a bit, and if it runs a lot cooler with that heat sink that’s an attraction too. But £67 is a non-trivial sum, and my Pi3b is currently meeting all my RISCOS needs. |
Bryan (8467) 468 posts |
Why buy a Pi400 to do what my Pi4 already does. (sits with the display) |
Steve Pampling (1551) 8172 posts |
You need to shorten your question (as above) and then it becomes applicable to a lot of people. For people who don’t have a recent Pi and thus get a faster machine with more memory then the case is fairly obvious. For RO users, I’ve no doubt there will be a delay before the system functions completely. |
Michael Gerbracht (180) 104 posts |
In the video above they show versions in different colour schemes for Spectrum, Amstrad, BBC Micro and Amiga I think. Are they real and will they become available or was this just a mock? |
Kuemmel (439) 384 posts |
Yeah, I wonder if that Holtek thingy will cause any problems for Risc OS => “Besides the Broadcom BCM2711C0 processor, it comes with many of the same components such as the VL805 PCIe to USB controller, BCM54213PE Gigabit Ethernet transceiver, MxL7704 PMIC, and the same Cypress WiFi 5 and Bluetooth 5.0 wireless module. The only new main chips that I could find is a Holtek HT45R0072 8-bit MCU with a USB interface to handle the keyboard.” |
Dominic Plunkett (2556) 34 posts |
The holtek is just a USB keyboard. So it shouldn’t cause an issue. You might need to look for the shutdown keycode and deal with that |
Steve Pampling (1551) 8172 posts |
CGI mockup – he did mention that.
He’s a Commodore fan – at least one would have to match a C64 |