Let's get started with a Pandora port

Hello Raik

I finally order a pandora 1ghz.
Just a question: as the SoC and CPU are different from the classic/rebirth edition, is the Pandora sd card image available at http://www.riscosopen.org/wiki/documentation/show/Ready-to-go%20SD%20card%20images valid, or should I use another one? I see on your website some installation instructions with other images, but I am completely confused about which one to use and the story of slot 1 and 2… Also, it is not clear which SD size I should use.

Thanks for your help.

Hello François,

use what you want ;-)

Your Link is a older Image and it contains only boot.scr, cmos and riscos (08/2011). But with the new firmware works only ROMs after 07/2012.

You can use my images. The “Livesystem” is only one 2GB card and it works comparable with the RPi-card. A FAT partiton with the boot-stuff and a ADFS partition with the RISC OS files. Good for the first tests.

I prefer two cards. Left FAT (32GB or 64GB I have) with the Linux stuff and the 3 bootfiles and right a adfs card (16GB or 32GB) for RISC OS.

Hello Raik

I will receive my openpadore next tuesday, and so I would like to prepare everything to start it under RiscOS. But I need some help.
On your site, you are talking about two SD Cards, one for the left slot, and the other for the right one. I am a bit confused. Why do we need to use the two slots. Can’t we put everything on one SD card, to leave the second slot for a SD card dedicated to data. So, what is the purpose of each of the SD Cards?
I have a “slow” 4GB SD card and a fast 16gb one. Which one shoud I use for the right and left slots?

Thank you for your help.

Regards

François

Sorry, if my english confused you.

At first you can use the “Livesystem” for the left slot. It is a 2GB Image. It boot atomatic… RPi like.
You need only this one card.

If you will also use Linux, you need a card for the pnd-files. Then the two card version is better, I mean.

You can also build your own System. It is not a problem.

Play around and find out what is the better way for you.

I have the Linux stuff and the shared files in the left slot together with the RISC OS bootfiles and a modify bootmenu in the nand. In the right slot is a adfs card. So I can use Linux and RISC OS without changing the cards.

@Raik:
at booting up with your right sd-card-image i get a lot of errors,
telling me pandoradisk is missing?
after a lot of pressing ESC it boots into the desktop.

what i’m doing wrong?

btw: which is the best rom-image for the pandora?
which date? 26.03.2013 is Ok? or another one?

@Raik
seems i’m to stupid: i mistakenly erased the
cmos-file on the left card. where can i get this?

@Erich

Right card-image: Maybe this is not the right image or I have not changed the path e.g. in AppDock on the right way. I will check this in the next days. You can also use the “Live-card” in the right slot and copy the bootfiles for the “right card image” to the left card.
I use the 26.03. ROM. It is ok.
Sorry, any description mistakes on my download page :-( I work on this and I hope a better one is commimg soon.
Witch cmos do you need? For the two card version you find the cmos in the bootfile.zip for the right card. I will upload all my cmos-files later this day. You can also look at the Download on my old Site but I’m not sure. Maybe I delete the files after I upload my new one.

You can also create your own cmos. Open a task window…

*SDFS (or SCSI for USB)
*co. Drive 0 (ADFS also in the left slot e.g. “Livesystem”) or Drive 1 (ADFS card in the right slot)

Doubleklick !Boot … and safe CMOS. The saved CMOS you find !Boot.Choices. I hope that works.

Edit: You can download my Pandora cmos-collection .

@Raik

with the rom image from 29.03.2013 i get now
on the card in the right slot a data transfer error.
sadly i didn’t keep the ol rom :-(
do you still have the rom image from 26.03.?

Thats right, not work :-(
Your luck, I have a 26.03ROM and all the others since Jul 2010 also ;-) And I have also a working UMTS Stick…

@ Raik

thank you very much.
now everything works fine.
:-)

seems something wrong with the build
from 29.03.2013…
i’m doing some backups now…

I’m a little scared;-)
On the Pandora I always have the last ROMs are running on the Linux card. If something goes wrong I can copy back a old ROM under Linux.
For xM I always have a second card. If a new ROM update goes wrong, I can start with the second card.

@Raik
same here, roms on left card, together with the linux
stuff.
but i found a prob on the angstroem side
today: sdcreate(linux-version for pandora) always use
only 1.6 Gb of the card. and that on a 16Gb and an32Gb card.
is this normal?

I’m not sure what it mean. Have you a link?
I have create a Angstroem card with the Angström tool to boot Angström from it, not from the nand. I remember the default size was very small but it is possible to use the full card or the size that you want. I think this is what it mean.
I use a 64GB card left but I must create two partitions (2 × 32GB). If the card has one partition with full size, the bootloader ignore boot.scr or autoboot.txt.
Wednesday I have formated a fresh 32GB card with HDForm on the Pandora (bevor I do this on my xM) and I copy the complete data from the old card (20GB data) on it. No problems. The old 32GB scandisc ultra makes problems (map space error) from time to time. The new transcend class 10 not and I have do any thinks witch go wrong with the scandisc.

@Erich

Right card Image… sorry, my mistake :-(
Not the right link…
Use the Stick Image for the right card and the right card image for the stick.
Means Pandora_D001_2.img.gz is for the right card and Pandora_D001_SCSI.img.gz is for a Stick.
Sorry.

@raik:
that with the cmos i saw. RISC OS side
is working OK now.
But i was wondering, why the linux-
sd-formater makes such small partition.
btw: i fear i need spme help, to find out,
how to do an sd-card, for angstroem-booting
which should contain also the user-dir
and the deskto-space. i dont like to boot allways from nand,
but dunno how to do that. do you have a link,
where i can find a manual to do so for the left
sd-card ( boot-partition with 1.5Gb+the other
space of the card for angstroem/desktop)?

@Erich

I’m not at home and I have no Pandora here. But I have use the Pandora SD Installer in Pandoralogo/System ;-). You can create a SD Card to boot Angström from. You became the question how many space from the card you will using and if you need a swap partition. I use a complete 16GB Card for the FS + Swp. Also I habe modify my bootmenu in the nand. So I can boot RISC OS from a ext2 partition.

@Raik
i can’t save the clock-settings (user defined, digital)
after a reset it goes back to analog.
is this a known issue?

I have try. It looks like a bug. You must save your Desktop settings via middle mb on the TaskWindow. It create a !Boot obey for !Boot.Choices.boot.tasks but the parameter in the Set Alarm line are not correct, I mean. I have not the time to search. It is Eastern.
Look at the manual and set the right parameter.

Edit: Sorry, I forgot the link

2. Edit: I have play around… It works if you save the CMOS after changing. The saved CMOS you find in !Boot.Choices. Use the new one.

@Raik
thank you, downloaded the pandora-sd-installer, worked.

what is the command to save the cmos on the RISC OS?

@Erich
?? The installer should be inside ??

CMOS: Doubleclick to !Boot, menu with middle mb on the configure window and save CMOS. The saved CMOS you find in !Boot.Choices… [Shift]+doubleclick to !Boot. Replace the old on the Boot card. You should use fat32fs to do this.

The ROM from today works.

@Raik
sd-installer was there, but not pandora-sd-installer.
seems i got an antique pandora…
thanx, could now save the cmos.
seems to many years ago…
have to learn everything about RISC OS again :-(

@Erich
I have a Batch1 here. My Rebirth I have send for the 1GHz upgrade to the Dragonbox Shop.
I mean since SZ 1.52 is the Installer inside. It is also possible that I have a Installer-PND in my menu-directory.
Last year I mean the Alarm settings are storable without store the cmos. It looks like the Set settings in !Boot are ignored. I will try this on my xM, RPi and Panda.

@Raik
i can’t save the clock-settings (user defined, digital)
after a reset it goes back to analog.
is this a known issue?

This should be fixed in todays ROM. There was a bug that was stopping SDCMOS from working properly.

There was a bug that was stopping SDCMOS from working properly.

Does that bugfix also address the CMOS-related problem described here please?