Aemulor on the Pi 2

I’m glad to report that Pi Aemulor appears to work on the Pi 2 with no modification.
Though we’ve only done a very brief test with Impression.
What other programs do people still use under Aemulor?

!PhotoDesk 3.12 which otherwise aborts on an ARMv7.

Justin Fletcher’s EasySockes module.

Roger Gammans’s SocketFS module

I believe RComp has a patch for PhotoDesk for ARM7.

I did a 32bit version of EasySocket ages ago.

Don’t know about SocketFS – is there a site for download?

I still use TableMate and (very) occasionally, Diagrammit.

I did a 32bit version of EasySocket ages ago.

So did I and at least one other (Stefan Bellon? not sure…). Justin has expressly forbidden people to release 32 bit versions of his software to the public. I realise that was many years ago, but I haven’t heard he changed his mind.

Justin has expressly forbidden people to release 32 bit versions of his software to the public. 

<sigh>

Photodesk 3.12 runs on the Pi 2 without Aemulor:-)
I was almost hoping it didn’t as that might help find the problem:-/

EDIT: Addition for clarity:
I was almost hoping it didn’t as that might help find the problem on the PandaBoard:-/

PhotoDesk 3.12 will not load a JPEG on the Pandaboard without aborting. Also it will not start up without a ‘cache off’. Aemulor solves these bugs.

@Colin,

You can see the link for SocketFS.zip on this page.

http://www.drobe.co.uk/archives//ftp.mirror.ac.uk/collections/hensa-micros/local/riscos/internet/?4

Shame about the 32bit version of EasySockets. But at least it still works on VRPC and Aemulor on a Pi 1. I can’t try it on a Pi 2.

PhotoDesk 3.12 will not load a JPEG on the Pandaboard without aborting.

Have you try to delete ore move the clipboard? Any problems with Photodesk comes from the clipboard.

Does anybody have a link for Easysocket or its documentation? I dimly remember it from years gone by but don’t think I ever used it. Just wanted to see what it actually does because the socket stuff isn’t that hard, just a bit of a PITA.
Seems as if the original has been exorcised from reality.

ftp.mirror.ac.uk/collections/hensa-micros/local/riscos/

…actually makes for depressing reading, all that. :-(

Finally found v1.08 here → https://web.archive.org/web/20010802021428/http://freenet.barnet.ac.uk/freenet/j.fletcher/modules/esockets-108

Looks like a useful thing, and I’m mentioned by name for receiving an early version. I really don’t remember that.
I also found an extremely impolite message sent to Justin in 2003. B**tard! Who’d do such a thing?

Does anybody have a link for Easysocket or its documentation?

http://web.archive.org/web/20010606110420/http://freenet.barnet.ac.uk/freenet/j.fletcher/modules/

combination of google for a url that wasn’t movspclr¹ and wayback for the archive copy

¹ wayback caught the link page but not the zip file behind it.

I also found an extremely impolite message sent to Justin in 2003. B**tard! Who’d do such a thing?

No shortage of tosspots.
Until then there was easy access to the 26 bit versions of his stuff, it was around then he said stuff the lot of you and removed various pages.

I see you found the same link, probably around the same time, but without an interruption from one who must be attended. (Small, furry, requiring sustenance)

No shortage of tosspots.

Sadly the truth. I just wish they went fruity and left us in peace.

Until then there was easy access to the 26 bit versions of his stuff, it was around then he said stuff the lot of you and removed various pages.

Well, there’s the conundrum. Half of me says he is being immature and we’re all suffering because of a tosspot who didn’t even have the courage to say it as their real name. The other half of me agrees, there comes a point where the hassle just doesn’t justify the effort. And coming at a time when the community picked sides and 32 bit was “the wrong side” from his point of view. Hmmm…

I hope Mr. Bin Laden is happy, sticking it to one of the most active and knowledgable people of the RISC OS community. Yes, there was a lot of “trouble” (understatement!) regarding the 26/32 factions, but to send that sort of message is uncalled for. I note that there is no freely available 32 bit version of ESocket, only some private conversions that others have done, so asswipe didn’t even manage to do that much. Hehe, isn’t that always the way? A load of hot air rubbing people up the wrong way…

I see you found the same link, probably around the same time, but without an interruption from one who must be attended. (Small, furry, requiring sustenance)

Ah, I cheated. I fed the fat furry and parked it on a sunny windowsill and then looked. I managed to get a few minutes of peace. ;-)

Half of me says he is being immature and we’re all suffering because of a tosspot who didn’t even have the courage to say it as their real name.

I think you would agree that Justin is “troubled” whether the RO wars had any part in that is unknown. Certainly didn’t help.

I fed the fat furry and parked it on a sunny windowsill and then looked. I managed to get a few minutes of peace. ;-)

There are three in the management team: Freddie¹, Merlyn², and Minnie³

¹Look up turkish van cat and then think runt of litter,long haired. Also known as wussboy. Dislikes being brushed. Likes the jelly or gravy not the bits, Eats Iams, Science Plan etc for solids.
²Actually female, also known as merlyn mardafuff woolybum snotdotter. Black, longhair. Dislikes being brushed, demonstrates this with skin removal. Demonstrates like of person with a jump up and headbutt of kneecap or similar. Eats most things except food with pills crushed in
³Female, black and white straight off the Felix packet apart from the longhair, dumped into our garden tiny waif with claws clipped unable to climb out, major cheesy squits (cows milk does that) tail glued down by the cake. Grew up and now often referred to as Pansy porker. Dislikes being brushed⁴. Demonstrates like of me by head rubbing my slippers. Will go anywhere for Dreamies.

⁴ Yes, that’s three long haired cats that dislike being brushed. Merlyn had anaesthetic for some tooth work the other week and the vet took the opportunity to brush out all tangles – even he worries

Justin’s Easy Sockets got, at least, as far as version 1.18. (The one I am using)

I remember the disappearance of EasySockets really stung me at the time. I’d been using it to take some baby steps into RISC OS internet programming. It being unavailable for 32-bit only machines (and then, not at all) really put me off, and made me wonder why I was bothering with RISC OS at all. But hey, over a decade later and I’m here!

Just realised I have a copy of EasySockets 1.18 (09 Feb 2002); possibly the last released version, sitting in the HostFS folder on my Mac (RPCemu here is still emulating RO4). The Help file says “May be freely distributed, so long as it is not modified and no charge other than copying costs are charged for it. It may not be included with any commercial product without my permission. The copyright remains with myself (Justin Fletcher).”

So if anyone does want a copy of the 26-bit version (obviously not much use on RO5 without Aemulor) I’m happy to email it to them.

Has anyone tried emailing Justin recently to see if his position on these things has changed, now that some time has passed? I think I can speak for pretty much everyone here when I say that we all respect the guy and admire his genius. Such a shame to lose him.

I’m happy to email it to them.

Can you please send me a copy of the help file with the changes at the end, so I can see what changed since v1.08?

Has anyone tried emailing Justin recently to see if his position on these things has changed, now that some time has passed?

Back when he issued his RISC OS Rambles, I had a number of observations and questions.
He didn’t answer anything related to old developments at that time, but later said he didn’t think he had any of the source anyway.
He did re-appear in the c.s.a.programmer group and still pops up at times. If someone who could take on the updating asked he might respond positively even if it was only with permission to reverse engineer.

Can you please send me a copy of the help file with the changes at the end, so I can see what changed since v1.08?

Emailed (I hope the Yahoo address on your website is still current!)

Emailed

Thank you.

(I hope the Yahoo address on your website is still current!)

Yup. The part of my site that is updated the most is my blog, and it is the same address there at the top of each page.

http://www.heyrick.co.uk/blog/

I’m wondering if I should just redirect my site main index directly to my blog and “tidy up” everything else? My film reviews are ages old, does anybody ever look at the Willow pictures? Networking RISC OS with Windows for Workgroups!?!?
There’s so much bleep! there it is unbelievable. I probably ought to nuke the lot of it…

Rick, one option is to redo indexes so that the old stuff is hidden in the proverbial disused lavatory marked ‘beware of the leopard’ – in other words, reference it in an obscure corner somewhere. Links will still work, Google will still find it if people really care, but most people won’t have to see the ‘last updated 1996’ stuff unless they go looking for it. Sometimes the old stuff can be important because every other site has bitrotted.